Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread wjhonson
-Original Message- From: Daniel R. Tobias To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 6:56 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales and Tim Berners-Lee for inventing the World Wide Web; the ARPAnet pioneers for creating the network on which the Web operate

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:04:20 -0700, Delirium wrote: > I think you might also be aiming at the wrong audience to some extent. > You seem to accept the media-narrative "founder myth" of Wikipedia as > this thing that sprang whole cloth out of nothingness due to the > ingenuity of Jimmy Wales; sav

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread Ray Saintonge
Delirium wrote: > Larry Sanger wrote: > >> I can recognize when I am no longer welcome. I didn't really believe I ever >> was welcome to begin with, but I was willing to try. I've always been >> optimistic. >> >> I assume that, since the self-appointed silencers among you are apparently >> ope

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread wjhonson
-Original Message- From: Carcharoth To: English Wikipedia Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 3:13 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:04 PM, wrote: > There's a way to tell the order in which people joined Wikipedia? > What is it? Possibly [[Speci

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread Carcharoth
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:04 PM, wrote: > There's a way to tell the order in which people joined Wikipedia? > What is it? Possibly [[Special:Preferences]], and your user ID. My user ID is between 165,000 and 166,000. And I created my account on 8 January 2005. Carcharoth __

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread wjhonson
-Original Message- From: Sean Barrett To: English Wikipedia Sent: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 1:59 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales Ian Woollard arranged electrons to indicate (back on 04/13/2009 10:09 AM) that: > Probably March 2001 would be the earliest slashdotting: > > h

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread Sean Barrett
Ian Woollard arranged electrons to indicate (back on 04/13/2009 10:09 AM) that: > Probably March 2001 would be the earliest slashdotting: > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/03/02/1422244 Shortly after reading that Slashdot article I became Wikipedia user #30. -- Sean Barrett | It'

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread Ian Woollard
Probably March 2001 would be the earliest slashdotting: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/03/02/1422244 And right at the end it says: Hector, who started the 'gnupedia' project recently wrote this on his mailing list: "Now, the FSF's plans are give all the support to the Nupedia project. So

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread Fred Bauder
> > What would *really* interest me, and what I consider > to be the seminal moment - even the foundational moment - > in creating the wikipedia we all know; is when somebody > made the conceptual breakthrough to the vision of > wikipedia as something sui generis, and freestanding. > > I am bettin

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread Fred Bauder
> This is exactly what matters. From what I can tell Sanger wrote much of > Wikipedia's initialy policy - policy that lives on today in various > edited > forms. Not only was he key in coming up with the more formal guidelines > for > Nupedia, he personally wrote many of the informal guidelines tha

Re: [WikiEN-l] An open letter to Jimmy Wales

2009-04-13 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Sheldon Rampton wrote: > Brian wrote: > > >> Let's be clear that, especially after the failure of Nupedia to take >> off, >> Wikipedia's success was a surprise both to Sanger and Wales. Neither >> of them >> expected that this would happen and can therefore not take full or >> too much >>