Re: [WikiEN-l] Daily Mail article on Sam Blacketer case

2009-06-09 Thread Harry Willis
Through ignorance, through weakness, through its own deliberate fault...? ;) Interestingly enough, though, Blacketer wasn't the one who removed the "consistency" comment – he was the one who added it in the first place. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Cameron&diff=242271726&oldi d

Re: [WikiEN-l] Daily Mail article on Sam Blacketer case

2009-06-09 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Mon, 8 Jun 2009, Harry Willis wrote: > To borrow WP:COI, I > can hardly see that advancing outside interests was more important than > advancing the aims of Wikipedia in this case. This isn't very related to your issue, but if WP:COI says this (and it seems to) it's very easy to interpret as "f

Re: [WikiEN-l] Daily Mail article on Sam Blacketer case

2009-06-09 Thread AGK
> > Gross inaccuracies that harm our public image? Not that I can see. Some of > the details are wrong - number of ArbCom cases for instance, but that's > pretty irrelevant to the story or indeed our reputation. Likewise with the > relationship between Wikimedia UK and the Foundation. (Belated re

Re: [WikiEN-l] Daily Mail article on Sam Blacketer case

2009-06-09 Thread Charles Matthews
AGK wrote: >> Gross inaccuracies that harm our public image? Not that I can see. Some of >> the details are wrong - number of ArbCom cases for instance, but that's >> pretty irrelevant to the story or indeed our reputation. Likewise with the >> relationship between Wikimedia UK and the Foundation.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google thinks Wikipedia is a news source

2009-06-09 Thread Sage Ross
Nieman Journalism Lab has some more about what's going on, including details direct from Google: http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/06/google-news-experimenting-with-links-to-wikipedia-on-its-homepage/ “Currently, we’re showing a small number of users links to Wikipedia topic pages that serve as a refe

[WikiEN-l] RFC on paid editing

2009-06-09 Thread David Gerard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Paid_editing - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Daily Mail article on Sam Blacketer case

2009-06-09 Thread Giacomo M-Z
Charles says: "All that can be done with the press is to try to get your own spin in there, along with what they'll print anyway." Charles is quite wrong; that is not all that can be done. Once can refute vociferously - anywhere and everywhere. Sadly though, Wikipedia and Jimbo are afraid to do tha

Re: [WikiEN-l] Daily Mail article on Sam Blacketer case

2009-06-09 Thread Andrew Turvey
I can't speak for the Foundation, but I assure you that we at Wikimedia UK are doing our best to defend and promote the Wikimedia projects against all unfair criticism, including these articles. Personally, I thought the article would have been worse if it had omitted the paragraph from Wikime

Re: [WikiEN-l] Daily Mail article on Sam Blacketer case

2009-06-09 Thread Andrew Turvey
"AGK" wrote: > From: "AGK" > > > Gross inaccuracies that harm our public image? Not that I can see. Some of > > the details are wrong - number of ArbCom cases for instance, but that's > > pretty irrelevant to the story or indeed our reputation. Likewise with the > > relationship betwee

Re: [WikiEN-l] GDFL compliance

2009-06-09 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Andrew > Turvey wrote: >> I've seen (source:Wikipedia) quoted a few times on media pictures now. > > Well, that's the media. :-)  They're used to being able to just say > random things like "source: Reuters" tha

Re: [WikiEN-l] GDFL compliance

2009-06-09 Thread Unionhawk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, I mean, what difference does it make? I guess it probably should have a link, but, honestly, with the number of Wikipedia images being reused these days, I don't think it would be worth it to attempt to track them all down... - --Unionhawk Carch

Re: [WikiEN-l] Daily Mail article on Sam Blacketer case

2009-06-09 Thread Giacomo M-Z
Nothing of substance done to refute the Hattersley rubbish. Jimbo claimed to be in conversation with the paper - in truth, the paper dismissed him and Wikipedia's PR trembled from the sidelines. Giano On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Andrew Turvey wrote: > I can't speak for the Foundation, but