Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorschach wars continue

2009-07-31 Thread FastLizard4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The concern is legitimate, if for no other reason than Wikipedia is usually in the top ranks of any Google search. But, Wikipedia is one site out of God-knows-how-many on the Internet, and /someone/ has to take the top search ranking on Google. If

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:Paradoxes

2009-07-31 Thread wjhonson
Point one. I do not presuppose the existence of a single god who is omnipotent. After all, if you believe in one omnipotent god, it doesn't take any leap to believe that that number may be more than one. I tend to write without the use of capitals at times. You assume my religious

Re: [WikiEN-l] IRC Group Contacts Surgery, August 2009

2009-07-31 Thread wjhonson
Why couldn't the logs be released to the public ? -Original Message- From: FastLizard4 fastliza...@gmail.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 7:27 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] IRC Group Contacts Surgery, August 2009 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [WikiEN-l] IRC Group Contacts Surgery, August 2009

2009-07-31 Thread Sean Whitton
Hi, On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 19:32, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: A few years ago, I had asked that IRC have a searchable archive of discussions.  I was told that there were daily logs and I could get one if  I asked.  I asked, and was denied.  Until IRC commits itself to  openness, it should have

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorschach wars continue

2009-07-31 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, FastLizard4 wrote: The concern is legitimate, if for no other reason than Wikipedia is usually in the top ranks of any Google search. But, Wikipedia is one site out of God-knows-how-many on the Internet, and /someone/ has to take the top search ranking on Google. If it

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:Paradoxes

2009-07-31 Thread stevertigo
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:43 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Point one.  I do not presuppose the existence of a single god who is omnipotent.  After all, if you believe in one omnipotent god, it doesn't take any leap to believe that that number may be more than one.  I tend to write without the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorschach wars continue

2009-07-31 Thread Sage Ross
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Ken Arromdeearrom...@rahul.net wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, FastLizard4 wrote: The concern is legitimate, if for no other reason than Wikipedia is usually in the top ranks of any Google search.  But, Wikipedia is one site out of God-knows-how-many on the

[WikiEN-l] Health advice from the web

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Kovitz
On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:46 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote: Todays New Scientist (vol 203 no 2718 page 20/21) has an interesting article on the veracity of online medical information; with several somewhat inconsistent references to wikipedia. Here's the article:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorschach wars continue

2009-07-31 Thread Ray Saintonge
Steve Bennett wrote: So, can someone fill me in on why we're laughing at this? From the article: To psychologists, to render the Rorschach test meaningless would be a particularly painful development because there has been so much research conducted — tens of thousands of papers, by Dr.

Re: [WikiEN-l] IRC Group Contacts Surgery, August 2009

2009-07-31 Thread Ray Saintonge
Keegan Paul wrote: Was that English? :D ~Keegan Irclish perhaps? ;-) Ec On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:27 PM, FastLizard4 fastliza...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It should be noted that you can, like every other freenode user that wants to keep

Re: [WikiEN-l] Health advice from the web

2009-07-31 Thread Charles Matthews
Ben Kovitz wrote: The site's other major flaw is its incompleteness. Wikipedia was able to answer only 40 per cent of the drug questions Clauson asked of it. By contrast, the traditionally edited Medscape Drug Reference answered 82 per cent of questions. 'If there is missing safety

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorschach wars continue

2009-07-31 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Sage Ross wrote: This is very different from Brian Peppers. The rich body of research on these tests (too much for anyone to easily digest) actually points to the need for a Wikipedia-style summary of the relevant data. It's one thing to say that the general public

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorschach wars continue

2009-07-31 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Ray Saintonge wrote: So what if there have been tens of thousands of papers on the Rorschachs! The geocentric universe was impervious to criticism for much longer. If the tests are truly scientific they will be just as scientific when exposed to open criticism. It's not

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rorschach wars continue

2009-07-31 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Ray Saintonge wrote: So what if there have been tens of thousands of papers on the Rorschachs! The geocentric universe was impervious to criticism for much longer. the incomes of those psychologists who are in denial about their game of follow-the-leader. NPOV is contrary

Re: [WikiEN-l] Health advice from the web

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Kovitz
Charles Matthews wrote: Ben Kovitz wrote: The site's other major flaw is its incompleteness. Wikipedia was able to answer only 40 per cent of the drug questions Clauson asked of it. By contrast, the traditionally edited Medscape Drug Reference answered 82 per cent of questions. 'If

Re: [WikiEN-l] Health advice from the web

2009-07-31 Thread geni
2009/7/31 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com: Ben Kovitz wrote: The site's other major flaw is its incompleteness. Wikipedia was able to answer only 40 per cent of the drug questions Clauson asked of it. By contrast, the traditionally edited Medscape Drug Reference answered 82

Re: [WikiEN-l] Health advice from the web

2009-07-31 Thread David Goodman
That our own foolishness. this is information that essentially everyone in the world considers basic reference information, that is available in authoritative form for all the english speaking countries (slightly different in each), and could easily be adding with absolutely impeccable official