Re: [WikiEN-l] Putting some perspective on the end of Wikipedia

2009-09-06 Thread Tony Sidaway
About two-thirds of the 30 semiprotected talk pages (and in some case the associated articles) have been unprotected. One of the articles was reprotected after immediate spamming (to be fair, it *is* called "poop", so I was obviously very naive there!) The others are still unprotected. I've made

Re: [WikiEN-l] Putting some perspective on the end of Wikipedia

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/6 Tony Sidaway : > On 9/5/09, Thomas Dalton wrote: > >> Is there a machine readable version of the protection log anywhere? >> > > You could probably use the MediaWiki API to do this: > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API > > Alternatively find some of the following regular reports easy to

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Well known"

2009-09-06 Thread Fred Bauder
Only in the context of arbitration cases where some horse's ass took a stand. Establishing a global standard is inevitably an ugly process, as in the old saying that compares the crafting of legislation to the making of sausage. However, we can strive to maintain a high standard, high enough that

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Well known"

2009-09-06 Thread Carcharoth
Have you ever read any of the more disputatious Manual of Style talk pages? Carcharoth On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > I suppose, as in matters of internet deportment, civility, we must also > accept the burden of maintaining the standard for English usage, global > English u

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Well known"

2009-09-06 Thread Fred Bauder
I suppose, as in matters of internet deportment, civility, we must also accept the burden of maintaining the standard for English usage, global English usage. It is a grim and dreary business, but I must admit it is our responsibility. Fred > Fred Bauder wrote: >>> For a change, something on Engl

Re: [WikiEN-l] Putting some perspective on the end of Wikipedia

2009-09-06 Thread Tony Sidaway
On 9/5/09, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Is there a machine readable version of the protection log anywhere? > You could probably use the MediaWiki API to do this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API Alternatively find some of the following regular reports easy to parse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Well known"

2009-09-06 Thread Charles Matthews
Fred Bauder wrote: >> For a change, something on English usage. A trawl through some usage >> books tells me nothing much about "most well known", which I'm convinced >> is a solecism, and should be "best-known". The hyphenation I think is >> standard anyway. Sadly Google believes there are 11,000

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Well known"

2009-09-06 Thread Fred Bauder
> For a change, something on English usage. A trawl through some usage > books tells me nothing much about "most well known", which I'm convinced > is a solecism, and should be "best-known". The hyphenation I think is > standard anyway. Sadly Google believes there are 11,000 instances for > "most w

Re: [WikiEN-l] Yeah, let's botspam Wikipedia. I'm sure that'll work out just fine.

2009-09-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/6 geni : > Of course they have a wiki of their own: > http://blackhat.wikia.com/wiki/Blackhat_Wiki w00t! Can't wait for the conspiracy theorists to get hold of that one. It's *obviously* part of the WMF office space deal. - d. ___ WikiEN-l ma

Re: [WikiEN-l] Yeah, let's botspam Wikipedia. I'm sure that'll work out just fine.

2009-09-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/6 Steve Bennett : > Just to hijack the thread...Once a site is blacklisted, is there any > way to link to it? I had the situation recently that I wanted to > reference a site (squidoo.com from memory) but it was blacklisted. You could probably spell out the name and not make it a link.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Yeah, let's botspam Wikipedia. I'm sure that'll work out just fine.

2009-09-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/6 Charles Matthews : > David Gerard wrote: >> I have a Google alert on "Wikipedia". > JOOI, how many alerts a day? Several, usually a few hits each. I get news and blog hits (as part of my self-assigned task to keep up with the blog and media buzz). I get them in real time, but daily sho

Re: [WikiEN-l] Yeah, let's botspam Wikipedia. I'm sure that'll work out just fine.

2009-09-06 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Charles Matthews wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> I have a Google alert on "Wikipedia". >> >> > JOOI, how many alerts a day? > > Charles My weekly alerts give me about 20 hits. It's an interesting mixture of very obscure newspapers, reprints & me-toos of big articles

Re: [WikiEN-l] Yeah, let's botspam Wikipedia. I'm sure that'll work out just fine.

2009-09-06 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/6 Risker : > 2009/9/6 David Gerard >> What could possibly go wrong? >> http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo-tools/115582-wikipedia-linking-tool.html >> If your life is suffering from inadequate levels of stupid (I know! >> Whose doesn't?), that looks like just the forum

Re: [WikiEN-l] Yeah, let's botspam Wikipedia. I'm sure that'll work out just fine.

2009-09-06 Thread Charles Matthews
David Gerard wrote: > I have a Google alert on "Wikipedia". > > JOOI, how many alerts a day? Charles ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wi

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Well known"

2009-09-06 Thread Charles Matthews
Eugene van der Pijll wrote: > Charles Matthews schreef: > >> Sadly Google believes there are 11,000 instances for >> "most well known" on enWP, and I'd prefer none to be in article space. >> > > Yes... I guess there must be a few style guides that allow > that phrase, but most well known s

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Well known"

2009-09-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Charles Matthews schreef: > Sadly Google believes there are 11,000 instances for > "most well known" on enWP, and I'd prefer none to be in article space. Yes... I guess there must be a few style guides that allow that phrase, but most well known style guides agree with you. _

Re: [WikiEN-l] Yeah, let's botspam Wikipedia. I'm sure that'll work out just...

2009-09-06 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 9/6/2009 12:09:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, stevag...@gmail.com writes: > > Just to hijack the thread...Once a site is blacklisted, is there any > way to link to it? I had the situation recently that I wanted to > reference a site (squidoo.com from memory) but it was blacklis

Re: [WikiEN-l] Yeah, let's botspam Wikipedia. I'm sure that'll work out just fine.

2009-09-06 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Risker wrote: > Amazing how few people realise that we're also perfectly capable of > blacklisting their websites, and will do so without hesitation should a > spambot show up.  Heck, we give people a hard time for putting in half a > dozen of the same links. Just