Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-10-31 Thread David Goodman
The important part of salvage work is not keeping the articles, but keeping the new contributors. This is done not just by refraining from deleting their articles, but helping the new editors to improve them. What encourages me to patrol is when I get a talk page comment after I've deleted (or

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-10-31 Thread Charles Matthews
Carcharoth wrote: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Carcharoth > wrote: > > > > I created a "journal" article in the end. Not part of this experiment, > but my point below (which may have got lost), is valid, I think: > > >> To try and bring this post back on-topic, I suppose my point is tha

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-10-31 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Carcharoth wrote: I created a "journal" article in the end. Not part of this experiment, but my point below (which may have got lost), is valid, I think: > To try and bring this post back on-topic, I suppose my point is that > stub articles on obscure topics wo

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-10-31 Thread Charles Matthews
David Goodman wrote: > That this leads to non-notification is only part of the problem. It > also leads to a failure to correct errors. When I see a bad speedy, > unless I think it's really important, I leave it alone, and do not > revert it, although I know it will result in people coming to th