Re: [WikiEN-l] deletionism in popular culture

2009-11-01 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:44 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > > Now that's a lovely perennial idea. There's no point in hard deleting any > article save to protect private information in the history. You can pure > wiki delete; or even pure wiki delete and protect the blank page; but > removing the wo

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > I think you needed to point out which bits of information corresponded > with which sources. I sure did! I also needed to use bullet points - but I didn't know that. > I see the failed wikilinking for Bintulu was not > corrected. Yup. Nor was

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread David Goodman
The point of my comment is that if I have the time to do it, the advice is specific to the particular article. Not suggesting looking for sources in general, but suggesting where they might be found, keeping in mind the probable availability to the user. Not saying avoid promotional phrases like

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Sage Ross
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > Have you written that essay with this sort of advice in it yet? :-) > > Carcharoth > That would make a good topic for an opinion essay in the Signpost, I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Opinion -Sage > On Sun,

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Carcharoth
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:21 AM, WereSpielChequers > wrote: >> I'm hoping that we won't have too many "trick" articles in this >> process, or articles that should be deleted but not by CSD (the >> criteria are "write an article that doesn't m

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Steve Bennett
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:21 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote: > I'm hoping that we won't have too many "trick" articles in this > process, or articles that should be deleted but not by CSD (the > criteria are "write an article that doesn't meet the deletion > criteria". Hmm, as for my own experimenta

Re: [WikiEN-l] How friendly are we to Newbies? Update on the create an article as a newbie challenge

2009-11-01 Thread Carcharoth
Have you written that essay with this sort of advice in it yet? :-) Carcharoth On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:47 AM, David Goodman wrote: > The important part of salvage work is not keeping the articles, but > keeping the new contributors.   This is done not just by refraining > from deleting their ar