Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread Risker
On 15 May 2010 02:28, stevertigo wrote: > Casey Brown wrote: > > Actually, there's now a thread on Commons for logo feedback: > > < > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedia/2.0#Logo_revisions_need_input > > > > I have tried my hand at tweaking a few things in SVG: > > http://en.wikiped

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread Michael Peel
On 15 May 2010, at 03:20, Casey Brown wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Carcharoth > wrote: >> Logo stuff can be discussed on the Wikimedia blog here: >> >> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/05/13/wikipedia-in-3d/ >> > > Actually, there's now a thread on Commons for logo feedback: >

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread stevertigo
Casey Brown wrote: > Actually, there's now a thread on Commons for logo feedback: > I have tried my hand at tweaking a few things in SVG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-en-alt.svg Notes are in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:50:04 -0500, Emily Monroe wrote: > Not really. Wheel warring is a serious offense. Worse than top-posting? :-) -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site: http://domains.dan.info/ _

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread Casey Brown
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Carcharoth wrote: > Logo stuff can be discussed on the Wikimedia blog here: > > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2010/05/13/wikipedia-in-3d/ > Actually, there's now a thread on Commons for logo feedback:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Liam Wyatt wrote: > Yes William, > you must remember that "the Wikipedias - SERIOUS BUSINESS!" proof: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_wikipedias_serious.jpg and no sense or > humour or lighthearted banter will be tolerated here. That kind of  behavior > bel

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread Liam Wyatt
wittylama.com/blog Peace, love & metadata On 14 May 2010 23:40, William Pietri wrote: > On 05/14/2010 03:34 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: > > On 14/05/2010, William Pietri wrote: > > > >> No worries! If I had thought somebody were suggesting wheel warring on > >> enwiki, I'd ask 'em about it too. >

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread Emily Monroe
Not really. Wheel warring is a serious offense. Emily On May 14, 2010, at 6:47 PM, AGK wrote: >> It's not acceptable *ever*. >> >> I was trying to do a test once and all my test articles disappeared. >> It had taken a while to set up. >> >> At that point you either just leave or wheel war and the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread AGK
> It's not acceptable *ever*. > > I was trying to do a test once and all my test articles disappeared. > It had taken a while to set up. > > At that point you either just leave or wheel war and then leave. > > All testing stops. Bit of an over-reaction. AGK __

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread William Pietri
On 05/14/2010 03:34 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: > On 14/05/2010, William Pietri wrote: > >> No worries! If I had thought somebody were suggesting wheel warring on >> enwiki, I'd ask 'em about it too. >> > It's not acceptable *ever*. > Ok. What I have learned here is that joking about ad

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread Ian Woollard
On 14/05/2010, David Gerard wrote: > On 14 May 2010 21:21, Ian Woollard wrote: > >> No, it's a horrible, horrible bug in the search box. >> To be honest, I think this bug should have gated the release; about >> 50% of the page hits go through this one box, and it's rewriting what >> the users typ

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread Ian Woollard
On 14/05/2010, William Pietri wrote: > No worries! If I had thought somebody were suggesting wheel warring on > enwiki, I'd ask 'em about it too. It's not acceptable *ever*. I was trying to do a test once and all my test articles disappeared. It had taken a while to set up. At that point you ei

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread William Pietri
On 05/14/2010 02:13 PM, Emily Monroe wrote: > Oh, you're talking about the test wiki? > > Wow, never mind. My profound apologies. I have trouble interpreting > inflection even offline. > No worries! If I had thought somebody were suggesting wheel warring on enwiki, I'd ask 'em about it too.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread Liam Wyatt
On 14 May 2010 21:19, Casey Brown wrote: > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:52 PM, AGK wrote: > > Ooh, that's nifty. I didn't know it existed either. Will they be > > testing FlaggedRevs on the site, > > > > Most new extensions are tested on their own "labs" site or on > testwiki, the Usability initiat

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread William Pietri
On 05/14/2010 02:07 PM, AGK wrote: > On 14 May 2010 22:02, William Pietri wrote: > >> Was there something about their prototype that you wanted to see >> included on flaggedrevs.labs? >> > Really just the vector skin and the other arrangements that have just > been rolled out on enwiki.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread Casey Brown
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:52 PM, AGK wrote: > Ooh, that's nifty. I didn't know it existed either. Will they be > testing FlaggedRevs on the site, > Most new extensions are tested on their own "labs" site or on testwiki, the Usability initiative is special because it has tons of different improvem

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread Emily Monroe
Oh, you're talking about the test wiki? Wow, never mind. My profound apologies. I have trouble interpreting inflection even offline. Emily On May 14, 2010, at 4:07 PM, William Pietri wrote: > On 05/14/2010 01:29 PM, Emily Monroe wrote: >>> [2] Except those of you who already have them. But for

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread AGK
> Was there something about their prototype that you wanted to see > included on flaggedrevs.labs? I'm also wondering if we will have a keyboard shortcut for pages that have changes awaiting review? At the moment, if I open a page and want to delete it, I can press ctrl+alt+d to bring up the delet

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread William Pietri
On 05/14/2010 01:29 PM, Emily Monroe wrote: >> [2] Except those of you who already have them. But for you, we have >> > a whole wiki that you can go wild on. You can even have a wheel war >> > if you want and we won't tell a soul. >> > Should you really encourage behavior such as wheel warr

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread AGK
On 14 May 2010 22:02, William Pietri wrote: > Was there something about their prototype that you wanted to see > included on flaggedrevs.labs? Really just the vector skin and the other arrangements that have just been rolled out on enwiki. I guess vector doesn't make much of a difference to how t

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread William Pietri
On 05/14/2010 01:52 PM, AGK wrote: > Ooh, that's nifty. I didn't know it existed either. Will they be > testing FlaggedRevs on the site, now that it's not needed for vector? > We do have our very own playpen here: http://flaggedrevs.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page The long-term plan is to

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread AGK
On 14 May 2010 21:17, David Gerard wrote: > FYI. BTW, I didn't know the prototype wiki existed! Ooh, that's nifty. I didn't know it existed either. Will they be testing FlaggedRevs on the site, now that it's not needed for vector? AGK ___ WikiEN-l mai

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 May 2010 21:29, Emily Monroe wrote: >> [2] Except those of you who already have them. But for you, we have >> a whole wiki that you can go wild on. You can even have a wheel war >> if you want and we won't tell a soul. > Should you really encourage behavior such as wheel warring? Even as a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread Emily Monroe
[snip] > [2] Except those of you who already have them. But for you, we have > a whole wiki that you can go wild on. You can even have a wheel war > if you want and we won't tell a soul. Should you really encourage behavior such as wheel warring? Even as a joke? Emily On May 14, 2010, at 12

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 May 2010 21:21, Ian Woollard wrote: > No, it's a horrible, horrible bug in the search box. > To be honest, I think this bug should have gated the release; about > 50% of the page hits go through this one box, and it's rewriting what > the users type. Has it been reported to Bugzilla/the t

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread Ian Woollard
On 13/05/2010, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Ian Woollard > wrote: >> Under firefox, the new search box is quite buggy actually. I just >> tried typing really quickly into it on a slow machine, and ended up >> with only half the information appearing; the third time th

[WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread David Gerard
FYI. BTW, I didn't know the prototype wiki existed! Also: Please try your weird, cheap and bad browsers on en:wp and the prototype wiki as an anonymous user. There's been a string of problem reports about older BlackBerrys and the PS3 browser, for example. The more good bug reports, the better.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread William Pietri
On 05/14/2010 04:23 AM, AGK wrote: > Thanks for the update William. It seems like we're getting very close > to release now, which is great to hear. We're very excited, too. > On 14 May 2010 06:25, William Pietri wrote: > >> we will be getting >> together with Rob H. and the rest of the ops

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Protection update for May 13

2010-05-14 Thread AGK
Thanks for the update William. It seems like we're getting very close to release now, which is great to hear. On 14 May 2010 06:25, William Pietri wrote: > we will be getting > together with Rob H. and the rest of the ops ninjas to discuss release > dates. Are you referring to the developers? Su

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Carcharoth > wrote: >> >> >> I'm used to typing the term for a page I know is there and hitting >> "search" (instead of "go") because I want the results of a search >> rather than being take to the page

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread Carcharoth
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:01 PM, William Beutler wrote: > > Despite my concerns about the search box location, I was resigned to the > Vector changeover until just this moment. And while I'm glad to see the > Japanese fixed (and possibly some of the other languages) the new *look* is > not an impr

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread Magnus Manske
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Carcharoth wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: >> On 13/05/2010, AGK wrote: >>> I prefer the old location for the search box, yes. But I think that's >>> because I'm _used_ to it being on the left. I think the usability team >>> gave a r

Re: [WikiEN-l] The new look to Wikipedia

2010-05-14 Thread Chad
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Amory Meltzer wrote: >> Delete and protect are in the dropdown arrow next to the star on the >> upper-right.  Block is where it always was, on the toolbar on the >> left, but you have to click the arrow to d

Re: [WikiEN-l] The New Look

2010-05-14 Thread William Beutler
Despite my concerns about the search box location, I was resigned to the Vector changeover until just this moment. And while I'm glad to see the Japanese fixed (and possibly some of the other languages) the new *look* is not an improvement. Too dark, too small. If there is a discussion about thos