Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread Andrew Gray
On 15 February 2011 20:18, Charles Matthews wrote: > Arguably the answer is "yes", back to the 16th century at least. There > has actually been quite a lot of havoc onsite over stub MP biographies > during the past year, but it transpires that there are pretty good > sources back to 1660, and usu

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread Charles Matthews
On 15/02/2011 18:17, Ian Woollard wrote: > On 15/02/2011, geni wrote: >> On 15 February 2011 16:19, Ian Woollard wrote: >>> Yeah, really. That page claims we only have 3% of notable Poles. Are you >>> really, seriously, telling me we only have 3% of ALL notable >>> biographies??? >>> Because that

[WikiEN-l] Two stories from Lorcan Dempsey

2011-02-15 Thread Liam Wyatt
Interesting post in Lorcan Dempsey's blog (influential librarian-blogger) relates two interesting stories (neither of which are unique/new to us, but interesting nevertheless): "Using Wikipedia" February 13: http://orweblog.oclc.org/archives/002155.html Story one. "Edward Glaeser includes a refe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread geni
On 15 February 2011 18:17, Ian Woollard wrote: > On 15/02/2011, geni wrote: >> On 15 February 2011 16:19, Ian Woollard wrote: >>> Yeah, really. That page claims we only have 3% of notable Poles. Are you >>> really, seriously, telling me we only have 3% of ALL notable >>> biographies??? >>> Becau

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread Andrew Gray
On 15 February 2011 04:00, Ian Woollard wrote: > I then checked the British biography 'Who's who'. They have about > 30,000 entries, but that's only about 1 person in 2000 in Great > Britain, so even less. This is actually quite an interesting angle to come at the problem from. Who's Who has 34

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread Ian Woollard
On 15/02/2011, geni wrote: > On 15 February 2011 16:19, Ian Woollard wrote: >> Yeah, really. That page claims we only have 3% of notable Poles. Are you >> really, seriously, telling me we only have 3% of ALL notable >> biographies??? >> Because that's what that page is assuming to calculate that

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread geni
On 15 February 2011 16:19, Ian Woollard wrote: > Yeah, really. That page claims we only have 3% of notable Poles. Are you > really, seriously, telling me we only have 3% of ALL notable biographies??? > Because that's what that page is assuming to calculate that 40 million. It's possible. Our cove

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread Ian Woollard
On 15 February 2011 04:33, geni wrote: > On 15 February 2011 04:00, Ian Woollard wrote: > > Anyway, so I stop there. Even 40 million appears completely > > unsupportable. It looks like it's off again by about another order of > > magnitude. > > Oh really? > Yeah, really. That page claims we onl

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread Charles Matthews
On 14/02/2011 22:31, WereSpielChequers wrote: > If something like WYSIWYG > editing were to bring in a new wave of editors then the model would > break and it would be possible to think in terms of how many potential > articles qualify. I think there is a point here. There are certainly a number

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread geni
On 15 February 2011 11:22, Carcharoth wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:33 AM, geni wrote: > >> We can establish a lower >> bound since the Thomson-Gale's Biography Resource Center contains over >> 1,335,000 biographies. > > The 2007 edition of the ODNB (British biographical history) has > "50,1

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:33 AM, geni wrote: > We can establish a lower > bound since the Thomson-Gale's Biography Resource Center contains over > 1,335,000 biographies. The 2007 edition of the ODNB (British biographical history) has "50,113 biographical articles covering 54,922 lives". What cri

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-15 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:03 AM, geni wrote: > I'm not sure that judging a project with 3 million articles based on a > sample of just one article a great idea. That was tongue-in-cheek, but a reminder to be wary of the state of an article. I wonder whether the recent editing history should be m

Re: [WikiEN-l] A Mormon Persective from the Deseret News

2011-02-15 Thread Tom Morris
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 02:59, Fred Bauder wrote: > 10 controversial Wikipedia topics: > > http://www.deseretnews.com/top/97/10-controversial-Wikipedia-topics.html > This is really goofy. Having lots of footnotes doesn't make something controversial. It makes it well-sourced. Sometimes the reason

Re: [WikiEN-l] [ResourceLoader] JavaScript may break on your wiki: Fix it before that happens

2011-02-15 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Reminder: this is 15 minutes. On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Guillaume Paumier wrote: > Greetings, > > As you may know, the Wikimedia teach team has started to upgrade > MediaWiki on some wikis. MediaWiki is the software that runs all > Wikimedia wikis. > > The most visible change for Wikimedi