[WikiEN-l] Nationality in the lead of articles

2011-03-31 Thread Carcharoth
One thing that annoys me about some Wikipedia articles is the tendency for editors to argue over the nationality of a person in the biography article about them. The classic example is Copernicus, which has some justification in that there is sourced discussion of the history of an actual dispute

Re: [WikiEN-l] Nationality in the lead of articles

2011-03-31 Thread Carcharoth
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9_Descartes Actually, Descartes may have been a bad example. The change was here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ren%C3%A9_Descartesdiff=nextoldid=407801169 Seems

Re: [WikiEN-l] Nationality on the lead of articles

2011-03-31 Thread FencesWindows
I dread to think how many megabytes of discussion are spent on discussing nationalities. So why are you discussing it? Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 09:56:46 +0100 From: Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com Subject: [WikiEN-l] Nationality in the lead of articles To: English Wikipedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] Nationality on the lead of articles

2011-03-31 Thread Fred Bauder
I dread to think how many megabytes of discussion are spent on discussing nationalities. So why are you discussing it? Meta discussions about problems sometimes result in progress. For example, I've been looking at another article, Astrology, where half a dozen astrology advocates have

Re: [WikiEN-l] Nationality on the lead of articles

2011-03-31 Thread Mike Dupont
Yeah, what about the whole issue of albanians, according to the rules mother theresa was not albanian, but by birth ottoman empire or yugoslavian something. There are many more examples. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Albanians On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:19 PM, FencesWindows

Re: [WikiEN-l] Nationality on the lead of articles

2011-03-31 Thread Fred Bauder
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: WikiProject Rational Skepticism High-importance) Really? Astrology is one of the oldest and, amazingly enough, still most popular foes of skepticism. If they don't consider it 'High-importance' then what *is*? --

Re: [WikiEN-l] Nationality on the lead of articles

2011-03-31 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011, Fred Bauder wrote: So, instead of working on the article, and adding something about astrology, there has been a sterile POV conflict. Meanwhile the article is piss poor with one of the POV warriors, now he's gotten rid of the opposition, re-writing it and making it even