[WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Sam Blacketer
There's an interesting story leading in the British newspaper the Independent this morning based on an undercover sting of lobbyists Bell Pottinger: "Discussing techniques for managing reputations online, Mr Wilson mentioned a team that could 'sort' Wikipedia. "'We've got all sorts of dark arts,'

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Tom Morris
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:57, Sam Blacketer wrote: > What might be better is to stress that any lobbyist seeking to use 'dark > arts' to correct inaccurate or unfair Wikipedia articles, or to add > properly sourced positive information, is best advised to use OTRS and to > provide sources. It seem

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Sam Blacketer
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Tom Morris wrote: > > This sounds like a splendid idea. Perhaps we could supplement it by > informing criminals that they can avoid a life of crime by getting an > education and a job, or maybe we could tell politicians to tell the > truth. Or maybe News of the Wor

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Charles Matthews
On 6 December 2011 16:08, Sam Blacketer wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Tom Morris wrote: > > > > > This sounds like a splendid idea. Perhaps we could supplement it by > > informing criminals that they can avoid a life of crime by getting an > > education and a job, or maybe we could te

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Javier Bassi
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Sam Blacketer wrote: > There might be some editors who want to start an immediate investigation to > search for the members of this 'team' but I think that would probably be a > waste of time which would put suspicion on a large number of innocent > editors. It's al

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Sam Blacketer > wrote: >> There might be some editors who want to start an immediate >> investigation to >> search for the members of this 'team' but I think that would probably >> be a >> waste of time which would put suspicion on a large number of innocent >> ed

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Javier Bassi
>> I think its pretty obvious in this case. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Zahra_Ahmed > > Does that relate to a known employee or client? No. The user created the account only to edit Dahabshiil ‎article. Four of his edits were tagged with "references removed". His point o