Re: [WikiEN-l] "Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement"

2012-04-16 Thread Carcharoth
On 4/17/12, George Herbert wrote: > Why would you not find yourself in a similar situation if employed by > a published scholarly encyclopedia and were told "This guy is just > notable enough, write a brief bio of him for the next version"? The difference is, there is (usually) an intermediary b

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement"

2012-04-16 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Carcharoth wrote: > On 4/17/12, George Herbert wrote: > > > >> The key problem here - IMHO - is not-sensitive editors interacting >> with sensitive BLP subjects. > > That is not always the case. > > What would *you* do if you cleaned up and expanded an article on

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement"

2012-04-16 Thread Carcharoth
On 4/17/12, George Herbert wrote: > The key problem here - IMHO - is not-sensitive editors interacting > with sensitive BLP subjects. That is not always the case. What would *you* do if you cleaned up and expanded an article on a BLP you had never heard of before (to 'do the right thing'), an

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement"

2012-04-16 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Sarah wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, George Herbert > wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Sarah wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:18 PM, David Goodman wrote: It would be better to have a rule to never take the views of the subject

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement"

2012-04-16 Thread Sarah
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, George Herbert wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Sarah wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:18 PM, David Goodman wrote: >>> It would be better to have a rule to never take the views of the >>> subject in consideration about whether we should have an artic

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement"

2012-04-16 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Sarah wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:18 PM, David Goodman wrote: >> It would be better to have a rule to never take the views of the >> subject in consideration about whether we should have an article, >> unless an exception can be made according to other Wik

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement"

2012-04-16 Thread Sarah
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:18 PM, David Goodman wrote: > It would be better to have a rule to never take the views of the > subject in consideration about whether we should have an article, > unless an exception can be made according to other Wikipedia rules, in > particular, Do No Harm.  People h

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement"

2012-04-16 Thread Charles Matthews
On 16 April 2012 14:12, Fred Bauder wrote: > The problem arises in the cases of articles which are libelous, > malicious, or manifestly unfair. Other instances, other than people who > are clearly notable, are not relevant; it doesn't matter whether we have > articles or not, promotional or criti

Re: [WikiEN-l] "Corporate Representatives for Ethical Wikipedia Engagement"

2012-04-16 Thread Fred Bauder
The problem arises in the cases of articles which are libelous, malicious, or manifestly unfair. Other instances, other than people who are clearly notable, are not relevant; it doesn't matter whether we have articles or not, promotional or critical, so it doesn't matter if the subject has the powe