Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:34 PM, David Gerard wrote: > You're assuming they could have, and that this would have been worth > doing. I don't think there's any reasonable basis for such an > assumption, as it carries the implicit assumption that we understood > Wikipedia well enough to make that so

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> Jimbo and Angela did not play a significant role in debates over inclusion and deletion > > Indeed, that was my point. I don't think they did anything, or > intended anything of the kind, but they chose not to intervene back when the gradual

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Fred Bauder
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Fred Bauder > wrote: >> Jimbo and Angela did not play a significant role in debates over >> inclusion and deletion > > Indeed, that was my point. I don't think they did anything, or > intended anything of the kind, but they chose not to intervene back > when the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread David Gerard
On 14 April 2013 01:29, Gwern Branwen wrote: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: >> Jimbo and Angela did not play a significant role in debates over >> inclusion and deletion > Indeed, that was my point. I don't think they did anything, or > intended anything of the kind, but

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > Jimbo and Angela did not play a significant role in debates over > inclusion and deletion Indeed, that was my point. I don't think they did anything, or intended anything of the kind, but they chose not to intervene back when the gradual slide

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Fred Bauder
> Why do you never hear complaints from inclusionists about Star Wars > articles being deleted? Because so many were deleted that the involved > editors finally bit the bullet and escaped to Wikia, and the only ones > that are left are either ones onboard with rigid constrictive policies > or have

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Carcharoth wrote: > And why would you think that > inclusionism/deletionism debates are intractable? I thought the idea > that such terms should be avoided (as they are divisive) was taking > hold and gaining ground? We're getting a bit far afield (I was just hopi

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 April 2013 23:42, Carcharoth wrote: > On 4/13/13, Gwern Branwen wrote: >> My basic observation here is that inclusionism/deletionism debates >> seem intractable, like religion and politics, which have long been >> correlated with a variety of mental and neurological observations and >> thi

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Carcharoth
On 4/13/13, Gwern Branwen wrote: > My basic observation here is that inclusionism/deletionism debates > seem intractable, like religion and politics, which have long been > correlated with a variety of mental and neurological observations and > this deep-seated roots of those beliefs seems to exp

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 4:22 PM, David Carson wrote: > Obviously, either some sound peer-reviewed research displaying that > "deletionists" suffer from deep-seated psychological problems that make > them clinically unfit to work on a collaborative project; or some sound > peer-reviewed research di

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread David Carson
What were you hoping to see? Obviously, either some sound peer-reviewed research displaying that "deletionists" suffer from deep-seated psychological problems that make them clinically unfit to work on a collaborative project; or some sound peer-reviewed research displaying that "inclusionists" su

Re: [WikiEN-l] deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Fred Bauder
> This is not very helpful for someone trying to find assistance..I guess > you > think this is funny, but it really seems like a bunch of 8th grade > middle-school boys. Sigmund Freud's theories are widely discredited, but do relate to messiness and excessive discipline. Fred > On Sat, Apr 13,

[WikiEN-l] deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Kathleen McCook
This is not very helpful for someone trying to find assistance..I guess you think this is funny, but it really seems like a bunch of 8th grade middle-school boys. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Tom Morris wrote: > > I'm waiting for ex

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Carcharoth
If you want anecdotal evidence, I would say that someone's first encounter with AfD can set them firmly in one place on the spectrum, but that most people who stick around see their views evolve as they come to understand sources and the range of articles topics and various problems better. Whether

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Tom Morris wrote: > I'm waiting for extreme inclusionists or deletionists to produce some > high-quality, not-at-all bullshit research that shows that failure to adhere > to their preferred philosophy is something that shows a deep psychological > tendency to ra

Re: [WikiEN-l] Psychological correlates of deletionism/inclusionism?

2013-04-13 Thread Fred Bauder
Obviously toilet training is involved. That is the source of the anal personality. Need a study of toilet training of future editors... Fred > Some recent musings reminded me that I never did find a good answer > for an old question of mine: does anything predict whether an editor > will lean tow

[WikiEN-l] Mapping the Global Economy

2013-04-13 Thread Alex Peek
There is a lack of economic knowledge in the world and this project attempts to solve this problem. I would love to see map out the global economy in a simplified format. Under a standardized structure, local/country economic data would be collected. Economists can help determine the most concise

[WikiEN-l] Mapping the Global Economy

2013-04-13 Thread Alex Peek
Hi everyone, here are two draft wiki articles I created: Economy of U.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/Economy_of_the_United_States Economy of China http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mcnabber091/sandbox My goal is to complete all 196 countries in this standardized format and hav