This is not a mere "personal dispute," Fred.
Anyway, I'm out of here.
> -Original Message-
> From: wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org
> [mailto:wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Fred Bauder
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:51 PM
> To: 'English Wikipedia'
> Subject: Re:
I can recognize when I am no longer welcome. I didn't really believe I ever
was welcome to begin with, but I was willing to try. I've always been
optimistic.
I assume that, since the self-appointed silencers among you are apparently
operating with impunity, I could not possibly continue to press
Fred Bauder wrote:
> Given Jimmy
> Wales's reluctance to engage you and the rejection by the
> community in general of your assertions, it is time to drop
> those issues with respect to this list.
Well, I'm about to bow out. But I did want want to say that you are
completely wrong that the Wik
George and Oskar, you are both making a fallacious argument. Of course
Wikipedia, as a reference resource, is not a battleground, a primary source,
or a discussion board. But WikiEN-L is, in case you didn't notice it, a
discussion board, and it is different from the encyclopedia. It also has a
g
David Gerard said:
> > Moreover, I assert that it is my right to raise hell not
> only on this
> > list, but also on Jimmy Wales' user talk page--if this is really an
> > open, transparent, democratic project devoted to free speech.
>
>
> It isn't the last two of those things. You need to rere
I'm sure I'll have more to say about posts to this list from the last 24
hours or so, but I did want to respond to this.
Various people said:
> >> So, please, both of you, get yourself some blogs and hash
> it out away
> >> from wikipedia servers, and away from community at large. We don't
> >>
Two more replies...
Charles Matthews wrote:
> Seems to me you are letting off a fair amount of steam here.
> That is a
> traditional role of mailing lists, and in particular of wikien. Your
> unsubtle flaming of Jimmy here isn't likely to change too many minds;
> which is more than can be sa
oes not concern you, if you don't care that he has used his position to
distort the truth for personal gain, I doubt there is anything I can say
that will convince you.
Bill Carter wrote:
> Dear Larry Sanger: Please keep Citizendium going and do not
> step down in two years as, I belie
First, let me thank the moderators for approving my letter.
Replies to two different people here.
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote:
> ... it is sadly regrettable that you were
> not able to choose the initial forum where you published your
> diatribe with more discernment.
I disagree. As I said i
ndium.org/2009/04/08/an-open-letter-to-jimmy-wales-copy/
http://blog.citizendium.org/2009/04/08/updates-re-open-letter-to-jimmy-wales
/
The letter itself follows.
--Larry Sanger
===
Jimmy, I don't know a better place than this for an open letter to you
[i.e., than on your user
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