nds to me as though he were ill, not just stupid.
>
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ne to become more knowledgeable and to produce better
> scholarship.
Erm. Then what does?
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Hope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Ireland_article_names/Evidence
Thanks, all, for your advice.
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For good or for ill, I have filed a request for Arbitration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Request_for_arbitration_of_Ireland_article_naming_dispute
I hope they take the case.
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It's all been undone now.
There must be arbitration. I can see no other solution.
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In case anyone is curious, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tariqabjotu&diff=255356231&oldid=255352300#Congrats_for_bravery
and the expected
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI#Ireland_page_moves
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ireland#Proposed_move_to_Ireland_.28island.29
It's a lot to read, I know. A number of us believe that the proposed
compromise is the only one that has a chance of lasting long-term. I
invite you to read that talk article (it's in three parts now) and try
or to [[Ireland (Republic)]] --
>> I think you'd get push-back on that. I could ask, but just at the
>> moment that might be poking the hornet's nest.
>>
>
> Whether it's "(Republic)" or "(republic)" should not be a big issue.
The point I was
On 28 Nov 2008, at 12:45, Andrew Gray wrote:
> 2008/11/28 Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> I don't believe it would be preferable. to changee [[Republic of
>> Ireland]] to [[Ireland (republic)]] or to [[Ireland (Republic)]] --
>> I think you'd
On 28 Nov 2008, at 00:27, Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Michael Everson wrote:
>> On 27 Nov 2008, at 12:05, David Gerard wrote:
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>>> 2008/11/27 Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>>> We haven't proposed that. We proposed "Ireland (st
> the fact that it is an incomplete Republic.
What, pray, is "an incomplete Republic"?
Compare the European Union. When new members are added, they are just
added to the article. The Irish state exists; if any or all of the
other six counties ever join the state, they would b
On 27 Nov 2008, at 12:05, David Gerard wrote:
> 2008/11/27 Michael Everson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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>> We haven't proposed that. We proposed "Ireland (state)".
>
> That has a slight smell of neologism - is the term used anywhere
> outside Wikipedia?
d (not of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Northern Ireland).
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y are organized. It won't solve anything and we'll be
back here again.
Please, folks, HELP. Look at the requests to move the two pages and
comment. That's the least you can do.
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> Would just moving Republic of Ireland to [[Ireland (state)]] and
> leaving the rest alone be acceptable?
I don't think that goes far enough.
> The latter title would avoid any unfortunate political connotations
> as it's a straight disambiguation title
n.
Yes, that's why we propose
[[Ireland]] - disambiguation page, primary title
[[Ireland (island)]] - geographical entity
[[Ireland (state)]] - political entity
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epublic of Ireland" isn't very
> good. You seem to be the one with experience of the fight...
And it's not even my main area of interest.
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because it isn't working there.
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le were looking for the country, "Ireland"
as a name for what is now "Republic of Ireland" would still be
controversial because the Northern Ireland editors dislike it so much,
I'm afraid.
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quot; but at least these terms are both
accurate and relatively neutral.
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On 26 Nov 2008, at 15:08, David Gerard wrote:
> Sounds horribly like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia .
Horrible, maybe, but how do we get a solution?
>
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(Ireland-related_articles)/Ireland_disambiguation_task_force
Maybe a bot can do it.
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use it is Ireland that will accumulate incoming links needing
disambiguation and the task of disambiguating them is made vastly more
difficult if Ireland also has "correct" incoming links that refer to
one topic by that name."
Apart from that I have sent some other answers trying to be ne
(for instance). The rest of the
world calls it Ireland, too. It is some Northern Ireland editors who
insist that "Republic of Ireland" be used, and this causes endless
debate.
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e only true compromise.
> Proposal #2 above:
>
> [[Ireland (disambiguation)]] - disambiguation page.
> [[Ireland (island)]] - geographical entity
> [[Ireland]] - political entity, primary title
This one has two "political" disadvantages. Oversimplifying hugely,
Ireland
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