Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Trouble in Ireland

2008-11-26 Thread Sam Blacketer
" are looking for the article about the Republic of Ireland. However, we can't escape the fact that the term Ireland is ambiguous. Some users would be unaware that six of the 32 Irish counties are not currently part of the Republic. -- Sam Blacketer _

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Trouble in Ireland

2008-11-27 Thread Sam Blacketer
> I come at it from the opposite perspective. To have the article on the 26-county Republic at [[Ireland (state)]] would be to gloss over the fact that it is an incomplete Republic. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedi

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Trouble in Ireland

2008-12-02 Thread Sam Blacketer
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ANI#Ireland_page_moves > Have to say that regardless of my feelings on the matter, that was a dubious reading of the 'consensus of the discussion'. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@l

Re: [WikiEN-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-07 Thread Sam Blacketer
f "the worst music ever". Hear monstrosities like William Shatner's Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds and Mr T rapping. WORTH A CLICK?: Cover your eyes. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe f

Re: [WikiEN-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-07 Thread Sam Blacketer
his evil in our midst." Further comments about how the IWF just ensured that millions go to see the cover in order to work out what all the fuss is about. "Millions of people" may just be an exaggeration. -- Sam Blacketer ___

Re: [WikiEN-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-08 Thread Sam Blacketer
luding on some very respectable sites. Have we thought of presenting the IWF with a list of 100s of URLs where this album cover is displayed and challenging them to block them all? Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows. > How appropriately Orwellian

Re: [WikiEN-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am

2008-12-09 Thread Sam Blacketer
The latest news is souding hopeful: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/dec/09/wikipedia-censorship-iwf-reconsiders -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https

Re: [WikiEN-l] IWF backing down?

2008-12-09 Thread Sam Blacketer
ikipedia and its users. Wikipedia have been informed of the outcome of this procedure and IWF Board's subsequent decision." Excellent. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this maili

Re: [WikiEN-l] IWF blacklist

2008-12-10 Thread Sam Blacketer
are looking for an ISP which will allow them to view illegal material. It's done them severe damage on their public relations. The fact that an IWF mistake led to a brief struggle with them should not make us their enemy. -- Sam Blacketer ___ W

Re: [WikiEN-l] Biography of Living persons

2008-12-29 Thread Sam Blacketer
e dies, which then permits an article about the impeachment in 1998 which must discuss other claimed examples of his infidelity in order to be comprehensive. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To u

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rank hath its privileges

2009-01-08 Thread Sam Blacketer
weight in persuading me that a heavy-handed response is not appropriate. The biggest part that concerns me is the dubious judgment in admitting doing it to a journalist from a major newspaper. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimed

Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC article on Flagged Revisions

2009-01-27 Thread Sam Blacketer
On 1/27/09, Alvaro GarcĂ­a wrote: > > It's "have", not "hav". > Unless you are Nigel Molesworth, hem hem. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list,

[WikiEN-l] Flagged revisions in The Sunday Times

2009-02-07 Thread Sam Blacketer
y features at least two errors, one libellous (unless my mother has been keeping a dark secret, I am not Roy Hattersley's son)" which has me befuddled since there is no entry on Giles Hattersley nor was there ever one (unless it's been oversighted). -- Sam Blacketer ___

Re: [WikiEN-l] How to raise the tone of the wiki

2009-02-09 Thread Sam Blacketer
There is the Institute of Historical Review, and has the VCH of Wiltshire been completed yet? -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] "A short article is not a stub."

2009-02-23 Thread Sam Blacketer
and dates of birth of her children? And what of the career details of her husband, who is not notable in his own right? On the other hand, details of campaigns she worked on before being elected are highly salient to political views, and it's her political career that makes her notable. -- Sam

Re: [WikiEN-l] History started in 1995

2009-03-04 Thread Sam Blacketer
el like pointing out we did actually use to be able to check things out before the internet happened you know. However I suspect most of these are fairly tendentious, along the lines of people who tag articles as unreferenced because they don't have inline references but do have a list of

Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC article on vandalism

2009-03-06 Thread Sam Blacketer
dated it. > BBC News online has always preferred to use wierd/odd pictures to ordinary looking ones. If it's someone for whom there are a lot of images, they will always use the one taken mid-grimace, or when they were wearing a silly hat, or when someone in a gorilla suit was be

[WikiEN-l] Interesting remark in Guardian blog

2009-03-16 Thread Sam Blacketer
hing" but the author makes an interesting point. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Green Ink Day (stick to Alan Cabal)

2009-04-09 Thread Sam Blacketer
etion was lack of notability, and not lack of references. The problem with the references is, I suspect, that too few of them are in the sort of mainstream publications which would make a clear case of notability. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mail

Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of l...

2009-04-23 Thread Sam Blacketer
On 4/23/09, Andrew Turvey wrote: > > What do we do about well-sourced information which turns out to be > incorrect? I don't think policies cover this area particularly well, but the > commonsense view is to word it something along the lines of: > > "A national newspaper in 2007 reported that cele

Re: [WikiEN-l] Edward Doran

2009-04-23 Thread Sam Blacketer
own right; it would be part of Oldham. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Politician praises Wikipedia

2009-04-26 Thread Sam Blacketer
t; million people." > > > > Not sure if his figures are accurate, but it's intriguing. > > Does this mean the Tories will be composing their next manifesto by > wiki? If so, is David Cameron founder or co-founder? > It shows some confidence th

Re: [WikiEN-l] Docs look to Wikipedia for condition info: Manhattan Research

2009-05-24 Thread Sam Blacketer
o have been accepted as valid. It's always worth investigating the history, and also whether the account or IP has vandalised anything else, when doing a vandal revert. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubs

Re: [WikiEN-l] Ramifications to wikipedians of unmasking of police blogger?

2009-06-16 Thread Sam Blacketer
book about the internal workings of the Conservative Party in the late 1930s, is still unknown. As Oscar Wilde wrote, if one tells the truth, one is sure sooner or later to be found out. Take it from one who knows. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Ramifications to wikipedians of unmasking of police blogger?

2009-06-16 Thread Sam Blacketer
of > the decision might be available? Looks like it will be another > important case in this developing area. > Best place for current UK court judgments is BAILII: http://www.bailii.org/ Not everything gets there but high-profile cases in the higher co

Re: [WikiEN-l] Ramifications to wikipedians of unmasking of police blogger?

2009-06-16 Thread Sam Blacketer
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Sam Blacketer wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Stephen Bain wrote: > >> >> My first impression is that this seems to be consistent with current >> UK "privacy" (ie, expanded breach of confidence) jurisprudence, though &g

Re: [WikiEN-l] News agencies are not RSs

2009-06-29 Thread Sam Blacketer
keep the life-endangering stuff off it. And that would take precedence over secondary arguments over whether obscure news agencies were reliable. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] News agencies are not RSs

2009-06-29 Thread Sam Blacketer
last week their full names were released. It became possible to check and neither had been mentioned in any British publication. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikimedian image restorations exploited on eBay

2009-09-18 Thread Sam Blacketer
dia.org/wiki/Dresdner_Frauenkirche -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Reliable sources for deaths

2009-10-07 Thread Sam Blacketer
ia outlet, or other institution which is reliable, it is a reliable source. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

[WikiEN-l] Another warning that reliable sources are not always that reliable

2009-10-14 Thread Sam Blacketer
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/14/starsuckers-tabloids-hoax-celebrities I haven't yet checked how many of the bogus stories mentioned have found their way into the subjects' BLP articles. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing lis

Re: [WikiEN-l] Observer WP airbrushing story implicates House of Commons IP

2009-10-18 Thread Sam Blacketer
ent in Luxembourg and has a lot of contributions to articles on current British MEPs - including blanking sections of Edward McMillan-Scott's biography: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Edward_McMillan-Scott&diff=prev&oldid=302006604 -- Sam Blacketer _

Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP task force meeting

2009-11-23 Thread Sam Blacketer
IRC meeting is just one way in which to discuss issues but it's helpful to have a real time chat. (What's not helpful is having one at 2 AM; no-one's going to be able to make every time suggested but perhaps we could have another in E

Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP task force meeting

2009-11-23 Thread Sam Blacketer
on the BLPTF pages on meta. The log for a previous meeting was already circulated on the BLPTF mailing list and the mailing list is going to be made public at the conclusion of the taskforce. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikime

Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP task force meeting

2009-11-23 Thread Sam Blacketer
Meeting_agenda/Minutes I imagine the log of the more recent meeting will appear on meta soon. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] New articles from the third world

2009-12-04 Thread Sam Blacketer
.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/BENDELfor an example (not to single out its nominator, but it is a good example). This is a former state of Nigeria which had a population of several million. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list Wi

Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello world! (was "Hello world?")

2011-01-18 Thread Sam Blacketer
re in disagreement: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_Rattigan I had to deal with a case where the dispute was over a year, where it is possible to guess at which date is the more likely: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emlyn_Garner_Evans -- Sam Blac

Re: [WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

2011-02-16 Thread Sam Blacketer
ous senior politicians preserved in the archives. They concentrate only on the subjects' Parliamentary and political activities, so for example the only mention of the diary of Samuel Pepys (MP for Castle Rising 1673-79, Harwich 1679 and 1685-88) is that Pepys stopped

[WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Sam Blacketer
licy and guideline pages are much heavier on telling people what not to do and threatening dire consequences, than they are on helping people to help us. -- Sam Blacketer ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Sam Blacketer
ybe News of the World journalists could be informed of the > many story-gathering opportunities that don't involve hacking into > people's voicemail systems. > I don't know, but do any of the examples you cite involve the use of Wikipedia, you know that website where the