Here is an interesting article by David Swindle of Front Page, about
Wikipedia's problems with biographies of living persons. Swindle sees it in
terms of a persistent left wing bias.
I won't pretend to agree with everything he says--it is not helpful to
compare Michael Moore to Ann Coulter or Keit
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:11:41 +0100, wikien-l-Tony Sidaway wrote:
> Here is an interesting article by David Swindle of Front Page, about
> Wikipedia's problems with biographies of living persons. Swindle sees it in
> terms of a persistent left wing bias.
And (at least when I went there) it plays a
It's always sad to see this cast as a left/right thing - or "Wikipedia has a
liberal bias". We equally have huge problems with right wing agenda's on
some articles. And most of the BLP issues aren't related to politics, but to
all manner of "sides" (sexuality,political,ethnic,historical and those a
Hmm nice that he's not entirely relying on the Siegenthaler incident and has
quoted something beyond 2007. But his reliance on a 2009 Daily Mail story
about 20,000 editors vetting changes via flagged revisions
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208941/Free-edit-Wikipedia-appoints-volunteer-ed
> It's always sad to see this cast as a left/right thing - or "Wikipedia
> has a
> liberal bias". We equally have huge problems with right wing agenda's on
> some articles. And most of the BLP issues aren't related to politics, but
> to
> all manner of "sides" (sexuality,political,ethnic,historical
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, WereSpielChequers wrote:
> As for the Che Guevara article, as well as detailing his marital
> infidelities it describes him as "feared for his brutality and ruthlessness"
> and details why.
The complaint isn't that it says nothing bad whatsoever about him, it's more
like a co
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 13:58, WereSpielChequers
wrote:
> Hmm nice that he's not entirely relying on the Siegenthaler incident and has
> quoted something beyond 2007. But his reliance on a 2009 Daily Mail story
> about 20,000 editors vetting changes via flagged revisions
> http://www.dailymail.co.
On 23/08/2011 12:11, Tony Sidaway wrote:
> Here is an interesting article by David Swindle of Front Page, about
> Wikipedia's problems with biographies of living persons. Swindle sees it in
> terms of a persistent left wing bias.
>
> I won't pretend to agree with everything he says--it is not helpf
>
> For those who professionally seek attention,
>
You know; rather than political bias, or political editing, this is probably
the root cause of problems in the specific articles he highlights.
Not that I'd call it "their own damn fault", but they are in those
situations deliberately.
Tom
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, Charles Matthews wrote:
> But "bias" of the kind he works with is a really unhelpful concept for
> us, in practice: especially when trivialised by being "metricated".
What other way is there to claim bias than being "metricated"? Is he just
supposed to give his subjective opi
Well rather than quote some percentage figures you could take the tack I did
with the Che Guevara article and actually look at what negative things were
covered. The sort of percentage system that Swindle used is highly
misleading, nine sentences about why someone came to believe something
followed
On 23/08/2011 19:54, Ken Arromdee wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, Charles Matthews wrote:
>> But "bias" of the kind he works with is a really unhelpful concept for
>> us, in practice: especially when trivialised by being "metricated".
>
> What other way is there to claim bias than being "metricated"?
On 23 August 2011 12:11, Tony Sidaway wrote:
>
> Here is an interesting article by David Swindle of Front Page, about
> Wikipedia's problems with biographies of living persons. Swindle sees it in
> terms of a persistent left wing bias.
...
>
> http://frontpagemag.com/2011/08/23/how-the-left-conq
He touches on some issues. We could probably quite easily counter them with
examples of right wing or conservative material that gets POV bombed.
Some of the bio's he is stretching the issue to be sure; perhaps more
analysis of events in these peoples life could be recorded (and certainly
those ar
I suppose I feel that some of his basic points do apply across the wiki,
when applied to articles that have been taken into ownership. A recent
rather disturbing case made some waves in Conservative (British
Conservative, that is) newspapers and magazines. One editor had been
systematically pruning
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