Re: [WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship

2010-01-19 Thread Charles Matthews
Daniel R. Tobias wrote: > On 17 Jan 2010 09:13:08, Fred Bauder wrote: > > >>> I'm so torn. On the one hand, the hypocrisy is blinding - filtering >>> its search results is exactly what Google was doing in China. On the >>> other hand, it's Encyclopedia Dramatica... >>> >>> -- >>> gwern >>>

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship

2010-01-19 Thread Charles Matthews
James Alexander wrote: > I think the biggest thing was that Google thought that if we were > working with China and going along with their filtering they should be > leaving us alone. So far, so standard for Western corporations in Asia. "Oh, you mean we have to understand the culture as well as t

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship

2010-01-18 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On 17 Jan 2010 09:13:08, Fred Bauder wrote: > > I'm so torn. On the one hand, the hypocrisy is blinding - filtering > > its search results is exactly what Google was doing in China. On the > > other hand, it's Encyclopedia Dramatica... > > > > -- > > gwern > > Oh, they're cool; shine it on... >

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship

2010-01-18 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote: > > Google has agreed to take down links to a website that promotes racist > views of indigenous Australians. > > Aboriginal man Steve Hodder-Watt recently discovered the US-based site by > searching "Aboriginal and Encyclopedia" in the searc

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship

2010-01-18 Thread James Alexander
To be honest I don't totally see it as hypocrisy, inconsistent? Perhaps a bit, I actually saw the Google statement as less "we don't support censorship" and more of a "you broke the implicit (or explicit I don't know) agreement. I think the biggest thing was that Google thought that if we were work

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship

2010-01-17 Thread Christopher Grant
(from smh article) >Mr Newhouse believes the site would be filtered under the Federal Government's mandatory filter. The plot thickens... Sure their articles racist and are basically designed offend everyone, however I personally don't feel conformable with the government being able to block a sit

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship

2010-01-17 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Anthony wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Anthony wrote: >> If censoring some things (like "the most offensive sorts of racial >> vilification you could possibly find"), and refusing to censor other things >> (like an historical account of a pro-democrac

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship

2010-01-17 Thread Fred Bauder
>> Google has agreed to take down links to a website that promotes racist >> views of indigenous Australians. >> Aboriginal man Steve Hodder-Watt recently discovered the US-based site >> by searching "Aboriginal and Encyclopedia" in the search engine. >> He tried to modify the entry on Encyclopedia

Re: [WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship

2010-01-17 Thread Sage Ross
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Gwern Branwen wrote: >> Google has agreed to take down links to a website that promotes racist views >> of indigenous Australians. This story says the SMH one is misleading: http://www.inquisitr.com/57105/aus-media-gets-ed-story-wrong/ The statement from Google

[WikiEN-l] Google bows to censorship

2010-01-17 Thread Gwern Branwen
> Google has agreed to take down links to a website that promotes racist views > of indigenous Australians. > Aboriginal man Steve Hodder-Watt recently discovered the US-based site by > searching "Aboriginal and Encyclopedia" in the search engine. > He tried to modify the entry on Encyclopedia Dr