Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-07 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Charles Matthewscharles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: The introduction of Talk pages was, it should not be forgotten, one of the most brilliant innovations of the early days of Wikipedia. Indeed. A very intelligent friend of mine said he often finds the talk

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-05 Thread Charles Matthews
Bod Notbod wrote: One of the proposals on the strategy wiki has recommended an adjustment to talk pages. I added that perhaps the tab should be called discussion/feedback to encourage people who are primarily readers to let us know what they thought of an article without it necessarily

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-04 Thread FT2
How something's framed can shape how it's used. I would never have a comment on this article page, it's pointless and a monitoring nightmare. We'd get arguments and dramas, then we'd be expected to clean them up, BLP and negative material and accused of sheltering one side when we purge them...

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-04 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/4 FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com: What I would think more likely to succeed? A Help us improve tab, not a comment tab Specifically with a header and edit notice If you can see a way to improve this article, or better more up to date information, let us know! +1 Brilliant! I also might

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-04 Thread Bod Notbod
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:47 PM, FT2ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: What I would think more likely to succeed? A Help us improve tab, not a comment tab One of the proposals on the strategy wiki has recommended an adjustment to talk pages. I added that perhaps the tab should be called

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-04 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/4 FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com: What I would think more likely to succeed? A Help us improve tab, not a comment tab Specifically with a header and edit notice If you can see a way to improve this article, or better more

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Emily Monroe
this to the general wiki community somewhere and gauge the reaction? Will -Original Message- From: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:58 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments On Thu, Sep 3, 2009

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Al Tally
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com wrote: Simple suggestion: A big green button at the bottom of every page marked Comment on this page which creates a new section on the discussion page. Good idea, but we would get dozens of OMG I LUV THIS PERSUN!11!!!.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Emily Monroe
Simple suggestion: A big green button at the bottom of every page marked Comment on this page which creates a new section on the discussion page. Good idea, but we would get dozens of OMG I LUV THIS PERSUN!11!!!. Emily On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: On Thu, Sep 3,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:21:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bluecalioc...@me.com writes: Yeah, but see, the thing is, you don't own the blog. The person writing it does (well, technically, the blog hosting service does). They have the right to not have a comment show up. We could use

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:24:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, majorly.w...@googlemail.com writes: Or worse, THIS PERSON IS A DIRTY PEDO1!! (or something as bad). Could be problematic for BLPs. -- We already get that. So this wouldn't change that issue.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Emily Monroe
I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments. I thought we were talking about how to make the talk page more accessible... Emily On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:19 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:21:35 AM Pacific

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread wjhonson
: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments. I thought we were talking about how to make the talk page more accessible... Emily On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:19 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/3

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Emily Monroe
not sure it would, it's a trial balloon. Will -Original Message- From: Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 11:20 am Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments I suppose there would need to be a guideline started

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/3 Emily Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com: I don't see this as a way to improve the article, only a way to allow casual readers to make comments. THANK YOU for the clarification! It is, of course, *also* a good way to get input from people frightened by the idea of editing for whatever

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Al Tally
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:19 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:24:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, majorly.w...@googlemail.com writes: Or worse, THIS PERSON IS A DIRTY PEDO1!! (or something as bad). Could be problematic for BLPs. -- We

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Emily Monroe
Monroe bluecalioc...@me.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 11:20 am Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what sorts of things are OK for comments. I thought we were talking about how

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: snip Y'know, we have pretty much no facillities *just for the reader*. I thought they had things called articles they could read? :-) Seriously, some of the better portals are hard for readers to find. And I'm not sure how

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-02 Thread WJhonson
I just today noticed a new interesting thing while doing a Google search. Under each result there is a cloud looking thing and if you hover it it says Comment. So I tried it. Would someone else try this Google search arsenic and old lace youtube Just like that with the quotes and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-02 Thread Nathan
Nope, no comments shown. If you click on the See all notes for this SearchWiki button below the results, it says no public notes have been made for the search results for [arsenic and old lace youtube]. What's a SearchWiki? Nathan ___ WikiEN-l mailing

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-02 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/2 wjhon...@aol.com: To make this thread on-topic, I wonder if there would be any  advantage is allowing comments, separate from Talk Page comments, on our  articles? I notice that many casual readers will leave comments which you  can generally spot as they are not-tagged-with-a-sig

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-02 Thread Luna
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: I just today noticed a new interesting thing while doing a Google search. Under each result there is a cloud looking thing and if you hover it it says Comment. So I tried it. In the Google search settings page, I followed a learn

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-02 Thread Emily Monroe
I notice the button to submit a comment is labelled Make a public comment; confusing! Maybe what they mean is Make a comment, generic member of the public. Emily On Sep 2, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Luna wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: I just today noticed a new

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-02 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:07 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Wikinews does this - they have a collaboration page for editors working on the article, but a comment page specifically for readers to spout forth. Would be good. Yes, there's no good reason we should subject casual

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-02 Thread wjhonson
: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:58 pm Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:07 AM, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. Wikinews does this - they have a collaboration page for editors