There is a list of organic compounds in Chemistry. I moved to
{{mergeto|:category:organic_compounds}} on that list at least a year ago.
The list should be nothing but requested articles and it might include
organic compounds that are not in :category:organic_compounds (or a subcat
of it). List
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Andrew Gray wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:911ct
>
> People often end up being added here as "proponents and supporters",
> complete with lengthy edit-warring and debate on the talkpage, despite
> the fact that the template often isn't added even add
2009/8/5 Charles Matthews :
> Another thing which is rather more than annoying is that plenty of quite
> unreferenced information is now placed in WP using these big
> templates-as-surrogate-lists.
To tie this into the BLP thread, and give an example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:911ct
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Carcharoth
> wrote:
>> Only three of those 24 articles, in my opinion, have moved much beyond
>> being a single line article or a few lines at most, even though
>> impeccably referenced. You might say "go and h
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
> Only three of those 24 articles, in my opinion, have moved much beyond
> being a single line article or a few lines at most, even though
> impeccably referenced. You might say "go and help expand those
> articles" (and I might well do that). But
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Charles
Matthews wrote:
> It gets even worse under the heading
> of "influenced by", one of the hardest matters to prove responsibly.
I'm sure you're right, but I still think that could be met - at least
to some extent - with inline citations to reliable sources.
Bod Notbod wrote:
> So you quite commonly see people attributing a musical genre to a band
> that other people disagree with, and some anonymous users have a fine
> old time changing 5 articles per minute to state their FAVOURITE genre
> simply *must* apply to every band they like, regardless of th
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
>> I notice that some people now are adding refs to 'genre' tags now, to
>> thwart the genre trolls. Not that that required any technical
>> fiddling, but I'm just saying in passing.
>
> Genre tags? Genre trolls?
I use the word 'tags' loosely. It'
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Bod Notbod wrote:
> I notice that some people now are adding refs to 'genre' tags now, to
> thwart the genre trolls. Not that that required any technical
> fiddling, but I'm just saying in passing.
Genre tags? Genre trolls?
Carcharoth
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On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Charles
Matthews wrote:
> To be fair, many lists are somewhat unreferenced. But of course you can
> add references to lists, and annotate them generally. There is no way
> such templates are ever going to offer verification.
Hmm. I don't see why that would be impos
Carcharoth wrote
> The annoying thing about some of these redlinks, is that when you go
> looking for other pages where they are linked from, you run into
> problems if they are linked from a template.
>
Another thing which is rather more than annoying is that plenty of quite
unreferenced infor
2009/8/5 Carcharoth :
> Doesn't just removing the links from the templates altogether (and
> then putting them back) do the trick as well? I suppose that might
> annoy some people...
You could do that, but this way guarantees that if you get sidetracked
half way through or run into problems, you
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Andrew Gray wrote:
> 2009/8/4 Carcharoth :
>
>> In other words, I like using "what links here" to find out when
>> something is mentioned in the article *text*, rather than when it is
>> merely mentioned in a navbox template. One of the problems though is
>> that lin
2009/8/4 Carcharoth :
> In other words, I like using "what links here" to find out when
> something is mentioned in the article *text*, rather than when it is
> merely mentioned in a navbox template. One of the problems though is
> that links from an *infobox* are more relevant, so I would want th
> Consider the case where the *only* links in "what links here" are due
> to being in a navbox template. The article would appear to be linked
> from many articles, but it would not be linked from anywhere (or very
> few places) in *real* text in other articles.
>
> Now do you see the problem I'm g
High time we left these off the whatlinkshere page, if technically
feasible. It would be the first step towards presenting the page in a
usable fashion, such as alphabetically.
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Carcharoth wro
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Emily Monroe wrote:
>> The navboxes would be so much better if they didn't pollute "what
>> links here".
>
> I personally like navboxes.
>
> I usually use "what links here" to check if an article is orphaned or
> not. What do you use it for?
To see what other artic
> The navboxes would be so much better if they didn't pollute "what
> links here".
I personally like navboxes.
I usually use "what links here" to check if an article is orphaned or
not. What do you use it for?
Emily
On Aug 4, 2009, at 6:26 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:3
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Magnus
Manske wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Carcharoth
> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Carcharoth
>> wrote:
>>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling_Award
>>
>> PPS. Someone told me, months ago, how to set things up so that
>> di
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Carcharoth
> wrote:
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling_Award
>
> PPS. Someone told me, months ago, how to set things up so that
> disambiguation page links show up in a different colour to ordinary
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling_Award
PPS. Someone told me, months ago, how to set things up so that
disambiguation page links show up in a different colour to ordinary
links (plus redirects showing up differently as well), but I'v
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Magnus
Manske wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling_Award
PS. The one thing I'm very bad at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Linus_Pauling_Award
...is linking from the winners
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Magnus
Manske wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
>>> http://chem.pdx.edu/~wamserc/Pauling2009/awardhistory.html
>>
>> Now created:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling_Award
>>
>> 10 redlinks from 44 entries.
>
> 2 of the 10 we ha
Carcharoth wrote:
>
> I seem to have let my keyboard run away with me there. Sorry! :-)
>
It is interesting, though, to speculate whether there is a "mature
dynamic" that is or should be taking over. There would be a few
different sides:
- (focus on metrics) Article count -> average length
-
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
>> http://chem.pdx.edu/~wamserc/Pauling2009/awardhistory.html
>
> Now created:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Pauling_Award
>
> 10 redlinks from 44 entries.
2 of the 10 we had under different titles; redirects are now in place.
Another one
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
> 1) For "James Learmonth Gowans", there is a redlink for "James L.
> Gowan" on this template:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wolf_Prize_in_Medicine
Now created as a redirect.
> http://chem.pdx.edu/~wamserc/Pauling2009/awardhistory.h
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
>> One of the annoying things is that sometimes you can have a grouping
>> of possible titles and possble redirects (e.g. A. Other, Any Other, A.
>> M. Other, Any Middle Other, Any Other (disamb
Carcharoth wrote:
> "Edmund Arrowsmith"
>
> Eww: "...executed for taking order of priesthood beyond the seas. His
> hand is preserved as a relic at Ashton, Newton-le- Willows."
>
>
1628: A sign of the times.
More surprising was a Catholic priest of the period that I worked on; he
managed to g
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Charles
Matthews wrote:
> visible fashion. It's around 30,000 links to do, doesn't matter so much
> where people plunge in (check page history to see if someone else is
> active(.
Now that I have discovered [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia 1.0]] and its
brethren, I disagree.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
> One of the annoying things is that sometimes you can have a grouping
> of possible titles and possble redirects (e.g. A. Other, Any Other, A.
> M. Other, Any Middle Other, Any Other (disambiguator), and so on), and
> sometimes redlinks for more th
Carcharoth wrote:
> Picking a page from here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:DNBFooter
>
> I can't quite see which of the lists need work, but I'll just pick any
> one with out the ticks and stuff on them, and start work there. Any
> way to mark one of the 63 pages when it is finished?
{{
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Charles
Matthews wrote:
> Carcharoth wrote:
>> Where is the current activity on the DNB project? It's something I had
>> kept in mind and wouldn't mind getting involved with at some stage.
>>
>>
> It's supposedly organised around [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing
> en
Carcharoth wrote:
> Where is the current activity on the DNB project? It's something I had
> kept in mind and wouldn't mind getting involved with at some stage.
>
>
It's supposedly organised around [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing
encyclopedic articles/DNB]]. Being just a subproject of the "miss
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Charles
Matthews wrote:
> Carcharoth wrote:
>> Anyway, what I wanted to know was whether there are places on
>> Wikipedia where such approaches to lists and checking links is
>> documented? I do remember something about various lists of entries
>> from places like th
Carcharoth wrote:
> Anyway, what I wanted to know was whether there are places on
> Wikipedia where such approaches to lists and checking links is
> documented? I do remember something about various lists of entries
> from places like the DNB.
>
> Ah here we are:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi
This is a nice writeup. It would make a good addition to the "lists
discussion" page you link.
An essay on this that ties into other ways to convert reliable
datasources into pages via a list-creation step (sometimes resulting
in a list, sometimes resulting in a topic outline, and sometimes
resu
I recently created three lists of winners of scientific awards, partly
because it needed doing, partly to see how good our coverage is now
(and how many articles remain to be written in such fields) and partly
to take a more systematic approach to checking links.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howar
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