Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-08 Thread Thomas Dalton
There is an excellent story on the BBC about this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16084861 They've really understood our position on these matters. It looks like David Gerard is responsible for helping them understand, so thank you David! ___

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 December 2011 19:00, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: There is an excellent story on the BBC about this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16084861 They've really understood our position on these matters. It looks like David Gerard is responsible for helping them

[WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Sam Blacketer
There's an interesting story leading in the British newspaper the Independent this morning based on an undercover sting of lobbyists Bell Pottinger: Discussing techniques for managing reputations online, Mr Wilson mentioned a team that could 'sort' Wikipedia. 'We've got all sorts of dark arts,'

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Tom Morris
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:57, Sam Blacketer sam.blacke...@gmail.com wrote: What might be better is to stress that any lobbyist seeking to use 'dark arts' to correct inaccurate or unfair Wikipedia articles, or to add properly sourced positive information, is best advised to use OTRS and to

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Sam Blacketer
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: This sounds like a splendid idea. Perhaps we could supplement it by informing criminals that they can avoid a life of crime by getting an education and a job, or maybe we could tell politicians to tell the truth. Or maybe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Charles Matthews
On 6 December 2011 16:08, Sam Blacketer sam.blacke...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: This sounds like a splendid idea. Perhaps we could supplement it by informing criminals that they can avoid a life of crime by getting an education

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Javier Bassi
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Sam Blacketer sam.blacke...@gmail.com wrote: There might be some editors who want to start an immediate investigation to search for the members of this 'team' but I think that would probably be a waste of time which would put suspicion on a large number of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Fred Bauder
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Sam Blacketer sam.blacke...@gmail.com wrote: There might be some editors who want to start an immediate investigation to search for the members of this 'team' but I think that would probably be a waste of time which would put suspicion on a large number of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Lobbyists and Wikipedia (again)

2011-12-06 Thread Javier Bassi
I think its pretty obvious in this case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Zahra_Ahmed Does that relate to a known employee or client? No. The user created the account only to edit Dahabshiil ‎article. Four of his edits were tagged with references removed. His point of view