Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Angela Anuszewski wrote: > Personally, I've given up on talk pages.   The reason is many of them don't > have actual "talk". I see a blue talk link and go there and all that is there > is a template "this page is part of wiki project xyz". I'd really like it if

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: > That's the way it's supposed to work, but I've never seen an external links > section that big, because if it got a tenth that size it would be put up on > the noticeboard and then get gratuitously chopped. And I'm not talking about > spam li

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 10/12/11 4:50 AM, Angela Anuszewski wrote: > Personally, I've given up on talk pages. The reason is many of them don't > have actual "talk". I see a blue talk link and go there and all that is there > is a template "this page is part of wiki project xyz". I'd really like it if > that kind o

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Bod Notbod wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Gwern Branwen wrote: > >> It would be a service to our readers to end this practice entirely: if >> a link is good enough to be hidden on a talk page (supposedly in the >> interests of incorporating it in the f

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread Ian Woollard
On 12 October 2011 18:42, Charles Matthews wrote: > Reminds me - we should at some stage do something about "noticeboards". Not > that they all need stamping out, but as unchartered processes, the more > useful ones should graduate to having some sort of charter. > Yes, and starting with WP:ANI;

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread Charles Matthews
On 12 October 2011 18:11, Ian Woollard wrote: > On 12 October 2011 06:56, Carcharoth wrote: > > > I agree absolutely that external links and further reading should be > > used far more than they are. > > > Nah. > > As in yes, but there's an entire noticeboard on Wikipedia devoted entirely > to s

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread petr skupa
Ian Woollard: do You know their motivation? I see this oversensitivity to the external links in czech Wikipedia too. I am not that much hurt by their removal, what is hurting me is that the cleaners are sometimes treating (in my opinion) well-intentioned outsiders as spammers. Reo On Wed, Oct

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread Ian Woollard
On 12 October 2011 06:56, Carcharoth wrote: > I agree absolutely that external links and further reading should be > used far more than they are. Nah. As in yes, but there's an entire noticeboard on Wikipedia devoted entirely to systematically stamping out external links, whether they're usefu

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread petr skupa
Not so bad idea, I like the templates and those informations very much. However, if such info could be on some third tab I might be happy. regards Petr Skupa [[u:Reo On]] On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Angela Anuszewski < angela.anuszew...@gmail.com> wrote: > Personally, I've given up on tal

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread Angela Anuszewski
Personally, I've given up on talk pages. The reason is many of them don't have actual "talk". I see a blue talk link and go there and all that is there is a template "this page is part of wiki project xyz". I'd really like it if that kind of information about a page was somewhere other than "t

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-12 Thread Bod Notbod
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Gwern Branwen wrote: > It would be a service to our readers to end this practice entirely: if > a link is good enough to be hidden on a talk page (supposedly in the > interests of incorporating it in the future*), then it is good enough > to put at the end of Exte

Re: [WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-11 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Gwern Branwen wrote: > Pondering the utility of talk page edits recently, I've begun to > wonder: how many of our readers actually look at the talk page as > well? I know some writers writing articles on Wikipedia have mentioned > or rhapsodized at length on the in

[WikiEN-l] Readers clicking through to talk pages

2011-10-11 Thread Gwern Branwen
Pondering the utility of talk page edits recently, I've begun to wonder: how many of our readers actually look at the talk page as well? I know some writers writing articles on Wikipedia have mentioned or rhapsodized at length on the interest of the talk pages for articles, but they are rare birds