[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-16 Thread stevertigo
I propose (again) a change to the "Wikipedia:WikiProject [Name]" namespace of the form: "Wikipedia:WikiProject [Name]" >> "Project:Name" -SC ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread Bejinhan
Do you have any reasons for that? ... Bejinhan On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:54 PM, stevertigo wrote: > I propose (again) a change to the "Wikipedia:WikiProject [Name]" > namespace of the form: > > "Wikipedia:WikiProject [Name]" >> "Project:Name" > > -SC > > ___

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread Liam Wyatt
I would presume for ease of use - it's shorter to write and is more immediately clear (to the non-wikipedian) what is meant. I guess that the underlying idea is that Wikiprojects (and indeed any form of collaboration that is more complex than what can be handled in an individual article's talkpage)

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread stevertigo
Bejinhan wrote: > Do you have any reasons for that? ... Ease. -SC ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread stevertigo
Liam Wyatt wrote: > I guess that the underlying idea is that Wikiprojects (and indeed any form > of collaboration that is more complex than what can be handled in an > individual article's talkpage) are such a fundamental part of the way we go > about building the encyclopedia that they deserve a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread Ray Saintonge
stevertigo wrote: > I propose (again) a change to the "Wikipedia:WikiProject [Name]" > namespace of the form: > > "Wikipedia:WikiProject [Name]" >> "Project:Name" > One problem: The major wikis are already known as "Projects". IIRC "Wikiproject" is a product of disambiguation. Perhaps a diff

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread Casey Brown
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: > One problem: The major wikis are already known as "Projects".  IIRC > "Wikiproject" is a product of disambiguation. Perhaps a different name > might work. > ...and I'm pretty sure that "Project:" is a required alias for the Wikipedia namespa

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread JamesR
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Ray Saintonge > wrote: > > One problem: The major wikis are already known as "Projects". IIRC > > "Wikiproject" is a product of disambiguation. Perhaps a different name > > might work. > > > > ...and I'm pret

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 August 2010 08:51, Casey Brown wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> One problem: The major wikis are already known as "Projects".  IIRC >> "Wikiproject" is a product of disambiguation. Perhaps a different name >> might work. > ...and I'm pretty sure that "Proj

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread FT2
It would, that's a sensible idea. Another easy option is to use a term like "collaboration", or to put the topic first. "Collaboration:Cosmology"? "Military history collaboration"? FT2 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 17 August 2010 08:51, Casey Brown wrote: > > O

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread stevertigo
David Gerard wrote: > Wikiproject: would be fine as a namespace name. That works. Something simple. -SC ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/w

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 August 2010 10:54, stevertigo wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> Wikiproject: would be fine as a namespace name. > That works. Something simple. Can I predict a heated 100-kilobyte discussion over "Wikiproject:" versus "WikiProject:"? - d. ___

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:01 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 17 August 2010 10:54, stevertigo wrote: >> David Gerard wrote: > >>> Wikiproject: would be fine as a namespace name. > >> That works. Something simple. > > Can I predict a heated 100-kilobyte discussion over "Wikiproject:" > versus "Wiki

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread stevertigo
David Gerard wrote: > Can I predict a heated 100-kilobyte discussion over "Wikiproject:" > versus "WikiProject:"? Is there that much CamelCase support still? I thought it was bad enough we were stuck with sticking "wiki-" onto everything. -SC ___ Wiki

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread Chad
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:51 AM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: >> One problem: The major wikis are already known as "Projects".  IIRC >> "Wikiproject" is a product of disambiguation. Perhaps a different name >> might work. >> > > ...and I'm pretty sure

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 August 2010 11:34, Chad wrote: > This is true. And it's exactly what was said last time it was > requested[0]. Any other choice (WikiProject, etc) would > work just fine. > [0] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18793 Run the idea of a "Wikiproject:" namespace past the village pump, build a c

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread stevertigo
David Gerard wrote: > Run the idea of a "Wikiproject:" namespace past the village pump, > build a consensus and then a new namespace should be easy enough. The > "Wikipedia:Wikipedia WikiProject" or whatever it is faff is minor but > has annoyed me enough I'd go "my goodness yes" to a shorter name

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread stevertigo
stevertigo wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> Run the idea of a "Wikiproject:" namespace past the village pump, >> build a consensus and then a new namespace should be easy enough. Posted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Rename_Wikipedia:WikiProject_namespace __

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 August 2010 14:54, stevertigo wrote: > Posted. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29#Rename_Wikipedia:WikiProject_namespace Supported :-D - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscri

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread stevertigo
David Gerard wrote: > Supported :-D srsly. -SC ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 August 2010 15:02, stevertigo wrote: > David Gerard wrote: >> Supported :-D > srsly. And as predicted, all the queru^Wdetailed discussion is about what to call it. Join us now and feed the bikeshedding! > NO - d. __

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-17 Thread quiddity
If these pages were moved to "Wikiproject:..." would there be any problems with our continuing to use WP: as a shortcut prefix? eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Shortcut#List_of_prefixes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Namespace#Aliases http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-21 Thread stevertigo
Current tally appears to be ~ 16 in favor of changing it, to 9 opposed to changing it. The objections appear to be based in technical criticism, which I've commented on. I think the technical objections are overstated. -SC quiddity wrote: > I assume it would be basically fine, as those are >all

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia:WikiProject >> Project

2010-08-24 Thread stevertigo
I've moved discussion to a meta page, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_namespace , and made a tally. I wonder if its possible that someone from the technical staff to give us an unbiased breakdown of the technical requirements and server costs to implement a namespace change