Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

hael Maggs > Enviat el: dimarts, 31 de gener de 2017 19:40 > Per a: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition > Tema: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous > screening > > [...] With suitable categories for shortlisted and winning entries, it ou

[Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

The problem with Russian submissions this year was that the files were mass-nominated for deletion. Whereas it has merit (indeed there is no freedom of panorama in Russia for monuments), and it looks we can not do anything on our end, there are two problems with these nominations: (i) users who had

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

problematic files and users. Vicenç De: WikiLovesMonuments de part de Michael Maggs Enviat el: dimarts, 31 de gener de 2017 19:40 Per a: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition Tema: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

In at least some previous years there have been informal agreements with certain Commons admins to keep an eye on things, and notices have been posted on the Admins Noticeboard reminding all admins to watch out for WLM uploads. There are Commons admins and and editors who are more than willing

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Hello, Anyway, as much as I am surprised that no top WLM organizer is a Commons > admin (although there's clearly at least one admin on this mailing list), > I beg to differ − Lokal Profil, Romaine, Yarl and myself are members of the international team and sysops on Commons :) [0] This thread re

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Sounds fair enough. I just candidated myself to this effect. Lodewijk 2017-01-31 15:21 GMT+01:00 WereSpielChequers : > Commons admins remain admins indefinitely, all they have to do is at least > 5 logged Admin actions every 6 months and not break the rules to the point > that people decide to r

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Commons admins remain admins indefinitely, all they have to do is at least 5 logged Admin actions every 6 months and not break the rules to the point that people decide to recall them. Rather than ask the WMF to give someone an admin override facility for Commons it might be easier if some more pe

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Are Commons admins approved temporarily? I know some Wikipedias (including Hebrew) don't have permanent adminship and re-approve admins every once in a while, but it's probably a disastrous policy for Commons if it's the case. Anyway, as much as I am surprised that no top WLM organizer is a Common

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

WereSpielChequers, 31/01/2017 09:39: I'm not an admin on commons, but where I am an admin it would be expected that you would check the history of a file before deleting it. It's expected on Commons too, see . When m

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

I've told Jcb about this discussion , reminded them to check for license blanking vandalism and asked if they can check the deleted edits of the license blanker in case they were able to get any other file

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Dear Lily, No problem, I have just unsubscribed from this mailing list. It is the easiest solution for everyone. You can always reach me off-list if you need. Best, Alexander On 31.01.2017 07:02, Lily wrote: Hi Alexander, On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Alexander Tsirlin mailto:altsir...

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Dear Lodewijk, If normal processes are followed, a deletion template/category would be added to the image, and this is actually something that could be reported by a bot. You'd only need to find someone to write that for you. I see that you want to keep everyone busy - person A adds the deletio

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Hi Alexander, On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Alexander Tsirlin wrote: > I think that I have raised this issue back in September, and at that time > Mr. Lodewijk told me that Commons admins are special people who are not > supposed to read and check anything. They simply delete an image if they

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Hi Lodewijk, On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:51 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > > I would be curious to hear some best practices that countries have > implemented to check for formalities. For example, I noted that one image > from Korea was deleted apparently because the licese was missing. I'm > guessing that

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Hi Alexander, Thanks for sharing your experiences again. It is appreciated. There are (at least) three issues playing in parallel here, and while they interfere, they require different approaches: * Sometimes admins move too quickly or don't follow the right process. This is something we have to

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

I think that I have raised this issue back in September, and at that time Mr. Lodewijk told me that Commons admins are special people who are not supposed to read and check anything. They simply delete an image if they want to do so, while the rest of the community should shut up and comply. I

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Usually in WLM-IT we check the top 10 thoroughly and we ask the jury to select 2 reserve winners just in case problems arise. Nemo ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinf

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Maarten, What do you think is a good way to change this? I realize that Commons Admins have a tough job, and mistakes will naturally happen, but I think this is a significant problem worth fixing. I'm not sure where to begin, though. Stephen On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Maarten Dammers wro

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Hi Lodewijk, On 30-01-17 17:28, Lodewijk wrote: Thanks! OK, so in this case the information was apparently removed by someone unrelated to the

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Thanks! OK, so in this case the information was apparently removed by someone unrelated to the author - very odd - and deleted by an admin without

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

I restored the image, the info still there in the history. Ciell 2017-01-30 17:07 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk : > People can also upload images manually. As I'm no longer an admin, I can't > check the history of the file - and there was no page with deletion request > created. The recent file I noticed w

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

People can also upload images manually. As I'm no longer an admin, I can't check the history of the file - and there was no page with deletion request created. The recent file I noticed was 봄이_온_수원_화성.jpg Best, Lodewijk 2017-01-30 17:06 GMT+01:00 Alexander Tsirlin : > The WLM upload wizard adds

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

The WLM upload wizard adds the cc-by-sa-4.0 license automatically. Therefore, it is hard to imagine that a WLM photo had no license. It rather means that someone removed the license, and then someone else deleted the file. Was it the case here? Sincerely, Alexander On 30.01.2017 11:51, Lodewi

[Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening

Hey all, As I noted that two of the national nominees have been deleted after their nomination, I was curious, are there any process improvements we could consider to avoid this to some extent? I would be curious to hear some best practices that countries have implemented to check for formalities