Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-13 Thread Saqib Qayyum
u > To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing > and photography? > > On 13.06.2014 03:48, Asaf Bartov wrote: > > Hi. > > > > In a grant discussing for funding this year's WLM compet

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-13 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 13.06.2014 03:48, Asaf Bartov wrote: Hi. In a grant discussing for funding this year's WLM competition in Pakistan, a member of the Grant Advisory Committee (GAC) brought up an idea I thought worth thinking about: offering one or two prizes, alongside the major top photo prizes, to those subm

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-13 Thread John Andersson
om To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org CC: idoi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography? Hi Lodewijk, I fully agree that the writing contest is not specially focused for new editors and is somehow out of the scope of WLM main goals.

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-13 Thread Jan Ainali
A little of topic but anyway: Some feedback from the latest Swedish article writing contest using these KISS rules. There were som frustration when people starting making tiny stubs. The rules unfortunatley clearly make an incentive for creating a 200 byte article, which takes almost no time at all

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-13 Thread Kippelboy
Hi Lodewijk, I fully agree that the writing contest is not specially focused for new editors and is somehow out of the scope of WLM main goals. Just shared our experience -just in case- someone want's to try it at home ;) We haven't decided yet if we will join WLM14 or not as a photo contest (sti

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-13 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Alex, This is indeed as easy as it gets. However, it is significantly harder to explain to a new editor than 'the best photo of a (national) monument is chosen by a jury' - a one sentence explanation that does justice to the concept is hard for a sitenotice etc - especially if we limit them to

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-13 Thread Kippelboy
Just for the record: On the Catalan Culture challenge (writing contest) we did an scoring system for writing articles based on the KISS principle: These are the rules - *+1 point* for each *(+1000 bytes)* of added content in any language. - *+5 points* for each new translation of an articl

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-13 Thread Richard Nevell
It's certainly an interesting suggestion. I wonder how difficult it would be to track though compared to image uploads. On 13 June 2014 09:01, Lodewijk wrote: > > 2014-06-13 9:36 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > > Agreed with Lodewijk, sounds too complex to explain. Easier to explain: >> coun

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-13 Thread Lodewijk
2014-06-13 9:36 GMT+02:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) : > Agreed with Lodewijk, sounds too complex to explain. Easier to explain: > counting only images used in some page; or, counting images + edits adding > (anyone's) WLM images to articles. Both give an incentive for "useful" > images and article-edit

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-13 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Agreed with Lodewijk, sounds too complex to explain. Easier to explain: counting only images used in some page; or, counting images + edits adding (anyone's) WLM images to articles. Both give an incentive for "useful" images and article-editing, the second being less draconian. Asaf Bartov, 13

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-12 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Asaf, the idea was floated before, and I guess there are advantages and disadvantages. The biggest downside imho is that it is too complicated to explain quickly to new editors. However, this is typically something that could just be tried out by a country - and if I recall correctly there wer

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-12 Thread Àlex Hinojo
HI Asaf, in Catalan Areas we've been doing WLM for several years and we already have great photo coverage, so we are discussing if this year's editions should be focused on writing related Wikipedia articles ifor each monument instead of promoting taking pics. Nothing has been decided yet, but is

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Minor prizes for combination of writing and photography?

2014-06-12 Thread Asaf Bartov
Hi. In a grant discussing for funding this year's WLM competition in Pakistan, a member of the Grant Advisory Committee (GAC) brought up an idea I thought worth thinking about: offering one or two prizes, alongside the major top photo prizes, to those submitting good photos as well as creating/exp