Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-05 Thread Jean-Frédéric
Hi Phil On the page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UploadWizard#URL_arguments it lists these parameters: * campaign: Specifies which [[/Campaigns|upload campaign]] to use. * skiptutorial: Sets if the licensing tutorial should be skipped or not. The value should be 1 or true to

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-05 Thread Platonides
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Philip Chang wrote: Yes, you are right, we can create a subpage automatically and presumably update it easily. Regarding the time issue, wouldn't that be limited automatically by the contest duration? If the user does not replace the photo

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-05 Thread Philip Chang
Platonides, Is ID FIeld 2 definitely needed for Upload Wizard? Elke said it was not needed for mobile uploads, but please confirm that too. Thanks. Phil On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Philip Chang wrote: Yes,

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-05 Thread Philip Chang
Also, is the contest template what goes into ID Field 1? On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Philip Chang pch...@wikimedia.org wrote: Platonides, Is ID FIeld 2 definitely needed for Upload Wizard? Elke said it was not needed for mobile uploads, but please confirm that too. Thanks. Phil

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-05 Thread Platonides
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Philip Chang wrote: Platonides, Is ID FIeld 2 definitely needed for Upload Wizard? Elke said it was not needed for mobile uploads, but please confirm that too. Thanks. Phil On 05/09/12 19:21, Philip Chang wrote: Also, is the

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-05 Thread Philip Chang
Thanks again. My question was more about Upload Wizard, I think we are ok with the app. I figured out that Upload Wizard can insert templates based on the campaign and ID in the URL. We are working on a new feature that adds a pre-filled link to Upload Wizard on the file page of every mobile

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-04 Thread Jon Robson
It's worth pointing out that one potential way of using the WLM mobile app [1] is that a user could upload a placeholder photo with their camera of a monument to keep track of monuments visited and then replace it with a high quality camera image when they return home to their desktop computer.

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-04 Thread Philip Chang
To add to Jon's comment, we are considering a simple UI change to make it obvious that users can upload from mobile and then replace the images later on the desktop. This assumes that replacing files is allowed, based on the copyright considerations discussed earlier in this thread. If there is

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-04 Thread Maarten Dammers
Hi Jon en Phil, We can make up a thousand edge cases, but I rather stick to common sense: Is it in the spirit of Wiki Loves Monuments? If someone trying to toy the system it's definitely not, in this case I don't see any reason why this wouldn't fit the competition. Of course both images need

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-04 Thread Platonides
El 04/09/12 21:13, Philip Chang escribió: To add to Jon's comment, we are considering a simple UI change to make it obvious that users can upload from mobile and then replace the images later on the desktop. This assumes that replacing files is allowed, based on the copyright considerations

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-04 Thread Philip Chang
Thanks for this feedback. A user subpage sounds good but the issue is how to create that from the app. What I am imagining is adding a category to those specific uploads, something like, To be replaced on desktop. This will help users find them later and would provide some indicator to admins.

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-04 Thread Platonides
On 04/09/12 23:15, Philip Chang wrote: Thanks for this feedback. A user subpage sounds good but the issue is how to create that from the app. Hmm, it should be easy: action=edittitle=User:Pchang/Files%20

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-04 Thread Philip Chang
I walked through this idea with Matthew and we came up with a refinement: On the user page, would it make sense to show the file as a link to its file page and also show a link to the Upload Wizard with all of the parameters for that monument? If so, I have a question: What exactly is the format

[Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Paul Selitskas
One of Belarusian contestants addressed me a mail with a question: may they reupload the same photo with a better quality and what consequences will it have concerning WLM. So, may the participant replace the file uploaded for WLM with the same file of better quality? Will the new file be treated

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Paul, primarily this question is up to the jury. My personal opinion is that a re-upload of higher quality is simply the same picture and this not a seperate submission. An edited version wouldn't be your own work fully, so wouldn't fit the contest rules. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/3 Paul

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Paul Selitskas
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Hi Paul, An edited version wouldn't be your own work fully, so wouldn't fit the contest rules. What then? Should the photo be rejected at all? Oh, by the way, what if the uploader fixes the photo by themselves? Will

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Karthik Nadar
Hi, On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Like I said: that is very situation specific, and up to the jury to decide. Sometimes, unknowingly, watermarks like time stamps are default in Camera, and the uploader may choose to upload the cropped version. This

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Lodewijk
exactly, it depends on the situation :) 2012/9/3 Karthik Nadar karthik...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Like I said: that is very situation specific, and up to the jury to decide. Sometimes, unknowingly, watermarks like time

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Paul Selitskas
Thank you guys for your comments! On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: exactly, it depends on the situation :) 2012/9/3 Karthik Nadar karthik...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: Like I said:

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
Sometimes, unknowingly, watermarks like time stamps are default in Camera, and the uploader may choose to upload the cropped version. This issue is situational and all should not be ignored.  I personally always post-process all of my photos before uploading, including cropping, perspective

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Roel Balingit
Thanks for bringing this out. This is very informative, I've just encountered the same inquiry. Roel Wiki Loves Monuments Philippines On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ruwrote: Sometimes, unknowingly, watermarks like time stamps are default in Camera, and the

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Andre Koopal
On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 05:14:23PM +0200, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: Sometimes, unknowingly, watermarks like time stamps are default in Camera, and the uploader may choose to upload the cropped version. This issue is situational and all should not be ignored.  I personally always

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Karthik Nadar
Hi, On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Andre Koopal an...@molens.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 05:14:23PM +0200, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote: Sometimes, unknowingly, watermarks like time stamps are default in Camera, and the uploader may choose to upload the cropped version. This issue is

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Reuploading

2012-09-03 Thread Platonides
On 03/09/12 16:45, Paul Selitskas wrote: One of Belarusian contestants addressed me a mail with a question: may they reupload the same photo with a better quality and what consequences will it have concerning WLM. So, may the participant replace the file uploaded for WLM with the same file