Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-07 Thread Platonides
On 05/09/12 23:46, Platonides wrote: > Lodewijk: >> people... if there is at some point a discussion worth of being called >> bikeshedding... it must be this one :) > I agree. The spirit of the WLM-exception seems to me that you do not > need to attach any licensing information at all to the pictur

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-05 Thread Platonides
On 05/09/12 01:14, Paul Selitskas wrote: > Hi everyone. > > Is it necessary to provide attribution and license text URL after > every use of CC image? We can make a page 'Copyrights' on > wikilovesmonuments.org where every thing will be attributed. I mean > the banner stuff, website stuff, etc. An

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-05 Thread Lodewijk
people... if there is at some point a discussion worth of being called bikeshedding... it must be this one :) I know we all love legal stuff but lets be pragmetic and just move on. The logo has been designed for these purposes, the intention is clear. Lodewijk 2012/9/5 Tomasz W. Kozłowski > On

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-05 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2012/9/5 Tomasz W. Kozłowski : > On 5 September 2012 12:11, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > >> Lusitana has just granted the right to use her work in relation to the >> contest WLM.without credits, so it is actually OK. > > She did agree not to mention her name when the logo is used in > relation to the co

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-05 Thread Tomasz W . Kozłowski
On 5 September 2012 12:11, Tomasz Ganicz wrote: > Lusitana has just granted the right to use her work in relation to the > contest WLM.without credits, so it is actually OK. She did agree not to mention her name when the logo is used in relation to the contest (and she did that in August 2011),

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-05 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2012/9/5 Tomasz W. Kozłowski : > For now, I have removed the stack photo from the banners. We are still > violating the terms of the licence used by the logo, though. > Lusitana has just granted the right to use her work in relation to the contest WLM.without credits, so it is actually OK. -- To

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-05 Thread Tomasz W . Kozłowski
For now, I have removed the stack photo from the banners. We are still violating the terms of the licence used by the logo, though. Tomasz ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/l

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Matthew Roth
Yeah, you need a Uniform Reference Indicator (URI) for every use of a CC-BY photo. Look at sections 4a, 4b, and 4c here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode Every day news outlets and blogs and most everyone online violates this and it's not enforced by anyone (Creative Commons

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Lodewijk
I suggest to keep a pragmatic view here. Let's not like real wikipedians go into all details and hurt ourselves here - but keep the spirit of free knowledge in mind. In this case it seems obvious Susana doesn't object - if she did she would have objected long ago and she indeed indicated explicitly

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Paul Selitskas
Hi everyone. Is it necessary to provide attribution and license text URL after every use of CC image? We can make a page 'Copyrights' on wikilovesmonuments.org where every thing will be attributed. I mean the banner stuff, website stuff, etc. Anyway, we'd have to link to this page in the banner or

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2012/9/5 Platonides : > On 05/09/12 00:14, Béria Lima wrote: >> Not even give a link to the picture in the land page (for sake of >> following the license?) >> >> Is quite strange to fight copyvio and then do not follow the license in >> the picture we use in the banner. >> _ >> /Béria Lima/ >

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Tomasz W . Kozłowski
Hi Platonides and Pete, in any case, we cannot use an image licenced under a Creative Commons licence (which disqualifies almost all pictures from Wiki Loves Monuments), as they all require an attribution (the name or pseudonym of the author/copyright holder) and a URL to the licence text (not the

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Peter Ekman
Maybe instead of using the POTY stack in the banner, we should create and use a WLM stack. At least by clicking the link you'd be in closer contact with the author info. On the other hand, this really is a small pic, so we shouldn't get carried away, but we have to be very careful on how we follow

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Platonides
On 05/09/12 00:14, Béria Lima wrote: > Not even give a link to the picture in the land page (for sake of > following the license?) > > Is quite strange to fight copyvio and then do not follow the license in > the picture we use in the banner. > _ > /Béria Lima/ He's the author and has given

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Tomasz W . Kozłowski
On 5 September 2012 00:14, Béria Lima wrote: > Not even give a link to the picture in the land page (for sake of following > the license?) If you can point me to a requirement in the CC-BY 2.5 licence which says that a website needs to attribute all images that link to it, then I will be more tha

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Béria Lima
Not even give a link to the picture in the land page (for sake of following the license?) Is quite strange to fight copyvio and then do not follow the license in the picture we use in the banner. _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acess

Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Tomasz W . Kozłowski
No. -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]] ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

[Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM banner problem

2012-09-04 Thread Béria Lima
User:Saibo asked me to forward it to this list: *I saw the current WLM central notice banner uses the "poty stack": aside > from being not really a suitable pic for WLM the usage of that image is a > copyvio. The authors are not mentioned on the WLM page (where the banner > links to) and not even