Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Community Fellow Peter Coombe

2012-04-12 Thread Samuel Klein
That's excellent. Kudos to the fellows team and good luck with your project, Pete! SJ On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Siko Bouterse wrote: > It is my pleasure to introduce our newest Wikimedia Community Fellow of > 2012, Peter Coombe. As a fellow, Pete will be working with the community to > i

[Wikimedia-l] Reminder: IRC office hours with Garfield Byrd, Chief of Finance and Administration at the WMF

2012-04-12 Thread Steven Walling
Just a reminder this is happening in #wikimedia-office in about 15-20 minutes. -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Walling Date: Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:51 AM Subject: IRC office hours with Garfield Byrd, Chief of Finance and Administration at the WMF To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Oh my god, I think I'll recommend the Germans to create a work group to have a close look at all those materials. :-) Thank's for the links Ziko 2012/4/13 aude : > Am Apr 11, 2012 um 9:28 AM schrieb Heather Ford : > > >> Have a quick question for some work I'm doing on Wikipedia literacy: >> >> W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread aude
Am Apr 11, 2012 um 9:28 AM schrieb Heather Ford : Have a quick question for some work I'm doing on Wikipedia literacy: What resources are folks using to teach others how to edit Wikipedia? At Wikipedia Academies etc? Here are some materials we have used at workshop, especially the one- da

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, I accompany people in real life mostly in an early phase, or I supervise them in a way that the result is not problematic. How people later survive onwiki on their own - I usually don't come to know. We discussed this in Germany and thought that for privacy reasons we also don't want follow

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Sarah Stierch
There is also a ton of case studies and best practices developed by the GLAM WIKI volunteers: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Get_started is a good place to look for some inspiration and speaking points. And Lori and the crew worked hard on t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Chris Keating
> Have a quick question for some work I'm doing on Wikipedia literacy: > > What resources are folks using to teach others how to edit Wikipedia? At > Wikipedia Academies etc? > > Have a look at the Outreach Bookshelf: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf "Welcome to Wikipedia" is well-used

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Community Fellow Peter Coombe

2012-04-12 Thread Siko Bouterse
It is my pleasure to introduce our newest Wikimedia Community Fellow of 2012, Peter Coombe. As a fellow, Pete will be working with the community to improve help documentation on English Wikipedia. He’ll be leading a 6 month effort and taking a data-driven approach to reorganize and rewrite key help

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Tom Morris
On 12 April 2012 21:24, James Heilman wrote: > With respect to audience, on Wikipedia we write for a general audience yet > our medical content is still used by 50-70% of practicing physicians. > Lonely planet lists hotels in different section based on price. On > Wikipedia we use editorial judgem

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Heather Ford
Thanks, Ziko. That's really interesting and sounds like an effective way of getting them started. I'm curious what kinds of problems people contact you about when they start editing for real? On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello, > > Myself, I have a presentation which

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread David Richfield
> [create some simple userspace articles for newbies to correct and edit] Great idea, Ziko! Thanks for sharing. I'll definitely do this when I do some training. -- David Richfield [[:en:User:Slashme]] +27718539985 ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikime

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Announcing Community Fellow Peter Coombe

2012-04-12 Thread James Forrester
On Thursday, April 12, 2012, Siko Bouterse wrote: > It is my pleasure to introduce our newest Wikimedia Community Fellow of > 2012, Peter Coombe. As a fellow, Pete will be working with the community to > improve help documentation on English Wikipedia. He’ll be leading a 6 month > effort and takin

[Wikimedia-l] Reminder: Volunteers wanted for FDC Advisory Due April 16

2012-04-12 Thread Barry Newstead
Hi - Just a reminder that we are still looking for volunteers to be nominated for the Funds Dissemination Committee Advisory Group. This group will help shape the initial setup of an important new committee to support funds flows within the movement and will provide valuable advice and counsel to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] teaching people how to edit Wikipedia

2012-04-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Myself, I have a presentation which shows a basic wiki principle; I noticed that showing the same thing onwiki would make me jumping too much from page to page. Showing Wikipedia functionalities then onwiki I call "Wikipedia surfing" (version history, talk pages etc.). If it is a workshop w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread James Heilman
With respect to audience, on Wikipedia we write for a general audience yet our medical content is still used by 50-70% of practicing physicians. Lonely planet lists hotels in different section based on price. On Wikipedia we use editorial judgement about what to include and what not to include. We

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Mark Jaroski wrote: >> We're under the impression that there are >> other Wikimedia foundation projects which don't use NPOV, and so those of >> us favouring approaching WMF have been able to argue that we wou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Ryan Holliday
- What sort of size is the WT community at the moment? I'll leave it to one of the others to answer that? Ryan? The English language WT version is the largest and gets around 500-1000 edits each day. There are 69,046 registered users and 48 admins, but on any given day it's probably fair to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 10 April 2012 17:51, Barry Newstead wrote: > If we simply select an FDC (btw - how would this happen?) and ask them to > figure out the issues for themselves, this would be a recipe for serious > challenges that could doom the FDC from the start. A relatively brief, but > structured process tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Casey Brown
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Mark Jaroski wrote: > We're under the impression that there are > other Wikimedia foundation projects which don't use NPOV, and so those of > us favouring approaching WMF have been able to argue that we wouldn't be > forced to use it. If that's wrong then we should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Jaroski
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 16:16, Michael Peel wrote: > It's not just you; the Wiki Travel Guide emails are also appearing in > multiple email threads for me. And they're all over the place in the > archive: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2012-April/thread.html > > Might be an iss

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-12 Thread Michael Peel
It's not just you; the Wiki Travel Guide emails are also appearing in multiple email threads for me. And they're all over the place in the archive: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2012-April/thread.html Might be an issue with the list settings? Thanks, Mike P.S. This project sou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Morton
> > > - What are the policies/approach to copyright violations and other issues > > such as slander, etc? > > > > http://wikitravel.org/shared/Copyleft > > > I was more looking for the communities approach to hunting down, removing or otherwise investigating copyright issues. (this is quite an impo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Jaroski
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 14:39, Thomas Morton wrote: > Just to highlight my earlier point about sourcing, the article on Florence > currently says: > > Opera was invented in Florence. > > > This happens to be true - but I have no proof of it, and it may well simply > be the opinion of the original

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Jaroski
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 14:33, Thomas Morton wrote: > p.s. I read your "fair" link with interest - I think that is a good way to > resolve the issue with clashing of personal experience. However one thing a > bigger community brings is a difficulty in resolving these problems (or, > they crop up m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Morton
Just to highlight my earlier point about sourcing, the article on Florence currently says: Opera was invented in Florence. This happens to be true - but I have no proof of it, and it may well simply be the opinion of the original writer. Much of the rest of the historical section is the same; it

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Morton
> > > What I think would be important to avoid is too much subjective > information > > from one individual; for example, where I to write about York, UK I would > > recommend not going to the Jorvik centre (a main attraction) because I > > thought it overpriced and boring. > > > > > > Whilst my vi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Jaroski
We've mainly approached this issue encouraging the different groups of travellers to add relevant content for their areas. We specifically try to mix it all in, because we don't want to section anyone off. There was considerable controversy back in 2005 or so about adding an LBGT section to the gui

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:04:27 +0200, Mark Jaroski wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:41, Thomas Morton wrote: So in summary I don't see that there is any real difference in our stance on this - it might just need a bit of rethinking. We'd like to express it as "Traveller's Point of View".

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Jaroski
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:41, Thomas Morton wrote: > What I think would be important to avoid is too much subjective information > from one individual; for example, where I to write about York, UK I would > recommend not going to the Jorvik centre (a main attraction) because I > thought it overpr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikidata logo

2012-04-12 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Mono wrote: > Can we please have a Wikidata logo contest? They're such a waste of time, > but they've made some really great logos and are always fun/ Yes. We're already collecting ideas at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata#WikiData_logo_candidate and t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Thomas Morton
> > First, NPOV would probably be a deal-breaker. The travel wiki community > (usually working at Wikitravel) have long used Traveller's Point of View. > This point of view is not neutral at all, but favours the traveller. > Hoteliers, restaurateurs, etc. have different points of view, but for us >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-12 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:30:45 -0600, James Heilman wrote: @Yaroslov 1) A merger within a WMF project is supported by admins from both WT and WV. WV is going to be meeting on the possibility of merging June 9th in Germany 2) Wikimedia's mission is to provide freely available educational conte

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Ryan Holliday
On 4/12/2012 12:04 AM, rupert THURNER wrote: I am not to deep into this, so please bear with me if it already was mentioned before: what are the main issues you face with the current setting? As with any diverse community different individuals will have different opinions, but some of the issu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread Mark Jaroski
Hi Rupert, The current hosting provider (who also own a trademark on the site name, and the right to place advertisements on the site) have become unresponsive to requests for server maintenance and especially software upgrades, feature requests, etc. Speaking for myself, one of the main interest

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Travel Guide Wiki

2012-04-12 Thread rupert THURNER
I am not to deep into this, so please bear with me if it already was mentioned before: what are the main issues you face with the current setting? Am 12.04.2012 08:53 schrieb "Mark Jaroski" : > Hi all, > > I'm a long-standing editor/admin/etc. at Wikitravel, though I've been less > active in recen