Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFT5: what practical benefits has it had?

2012-10-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dario Taraborelli, 12/10/2012 15:41: On Oct 12, 2012, at 2:11, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: we have some preliminary usage data coming from the FeedbackPage: http://toolserver.org/~dartar/fp/ Graphs are empty for me there, is it just me? We have a temporary hardware issue

[Wikimedia-l] Throttling (was: Re: Please can someone put 50p in the meter)

2012-10-14 Thread Craig Franklin
Can I second this one, we've run into it occasionally in WMAU outreach sessions as well, and it's always fun explaining why it's said no to someone without a foundation in computers or internet culture. A brief explanation of why it's happened and what to do in order to not lose your edit, made

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Throttling (was: Re: Please can someone put 50p in the meter)

2012-10-14 Thread John
If you are planning an event it is fairly easy to get your IP address temporarily whitelisted from the account creation throttle. You just need to know your IP address that will be used. On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote: Can I second this one, we've run

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Throttling (was: Re: Please can someone put 50p in the meter)

2012-10-14 Thread Andrew Gray
On 14 October 2012 13:59, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: If you are planning an event it is fairly easy to get your IP address temporarily whitelisted from the account creation throttle. You just need to know your IP address that will be used. Is it possible to whitelist IPs from the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Throttling (was: Re: Please can someone put 50p in the meter)

2012-10-14 Thread John
IPs shouldnt get hit with an edit throttle, (it is really really high) On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: On 14 October 2012 13:59, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: If you are planning an event it is fairly easy to get your IP address

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Throttling (was: Re: Please can someone put 50p in the meter)

2012-10-14 Thread Andrew Gray
On 14 October 2012 15:50, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: IPs shouldnt get hit with an edit throttle, (it is really really high) It doesn't seem it! Over the past few months, I've had it triggered four times in an hour in two workshops, and one or two times in perhaps four more. They're

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Throttling (was: Re: Please can someone put 50p in the meter)

2012-10-14 Thread John
Next time you get said message can you take a screenshot and let us know, (it is by default somewhere over 60/edits per minute) On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: On 14 October 2012 15:50, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: IPs shouldnt get hit

[Wikimedia-l] Proposed Wikimedia Medicine Thematic Organisation

2012-10-14 Thread Bence Damokos
Dear all, I wanted to update you on behalf of the Affiliations Committee that we are now considering the application of a proposed thematic organisation active in the field of Medicine. You can see the proposal at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Medicine We would like to invite you to

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation and Saudi Telecom (STC) partner to provide access to Wikipedia free of mobile data charges in the Middle East

2012-10-14 Thread Jay Walsh
Hi folks - sharing a news release that WMF issued this morning along with STC. (This press release is also posted on the WMF wiki at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/WMF_and_STC_partner_on_WP_Zero_in_the_Middle_East) '''The Wikimedia Foundation and Saudi Telecom (STC) partner

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFT5: what practical benefits has it had?

2012-10-14 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 4:33 AM, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thank you for enabling it again. I had read about the blind tests in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Article_feedback/Quality_assessment before but I see some major changes in the graphs, which are a bit hard to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFT5: what practical benefits has it had?

2012-10-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 14 October 2012 20:19, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed; I remember some (internal) announcements around this, which caused me and no doubt others to while away an evening just after deployment clicking helpful/unhelpful :) I didn't spend an entire evening on it, but I can

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFT5: what practical benefits has it had?

2012-10-14 Thread Phil Nash
I found it mostly useless. Not only could I mark the feedback resolved, which should not be possible for a banned user (!), but the feedback was either gibberish/abuse or unhelpful in the sense of (1) the material requested was already in the article, or a linked article, or (2) the complaint

Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFT5: what practical benefits has it had?

2012-10-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
phoebe ayers, 14/10/2012 21:19: Also, not to state the obvious, but 'helpful' feedback in and of itself doesn't mean the article changed for the better; I've marked plenty of feedback 'helpful' without doing anything further about it. Is there any data about rate of change of the articles since

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed Wikimedia Medicine Thematic Organisation

2012-10-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Thanks for the notice. Bence Damokos, 14/10/2012 19:07: A bit of background: Wikimedia thematic organisations are a new type of movement organisation, that are similar to chapters in supporting the Wikimedia mission through their activities in the real world, but instead of focusing on a given

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed Wikimedia Medicine Thematic Organisation

2012-10-14 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi Nemo, Hopefully people involved in the project are subscribed here and will react, as well and provide a clear definition of their aims. There are two sides to this coin: the should and the will: a thematic organisation should not have any control or power over the projects; it is a different

[Wikimedia-l] Proposed Wikimedia Medicine Thematic Organisation

2012-10-14 Thread James Heilman
Thematic organizations have the same amount of authority over content on Wikipedia as chapters. To spell this out clearly that means NONE. One does not put these sorts of details in a NGOs by laws however this will be clearly described in the policies once incorporated. -- James Heilman MD,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed Wikimedia Medicine Thematic Organisation

2012-10-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bence Damokos, 14/10/2012 22:05: See also the specific discussions on this question at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Medicine#Other http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Medicine#Liability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Iridescent#arbitrary_break_2 (and above)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed Wikimedia Medicine Thematic Organisation

2012-10-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
James Heilman, 14/10/2012 22:18: Thematic organizations have the same amount of authority over content on Wikipedia as chapters. To spell this out clearly that means NONE. One does not put these sorts of details in a NGOs by laws [...] Actually, chapters do and very clearly, as a general rule.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed Wikimedia Medicine Thematic Organisation

2012-10-14 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2012/10/14 James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com: Thematic organizations have the same amount of authority over content on Wikipedia as chapters. To spell this out clearly that means NONE. One does not put these sorts of details in a NGOs by laws however this will be clearly described in the policies

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation and Saudi Telecom (STC) partner to provide access to Wikipedia free of mobile data charges in the Middle East

2012-10-14 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Will access to Wikipedia for people in Saudi Arabia be uncensored? Has there been any agreement with Saudi Telecom on censorship? Andreas On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks - sharing a news release that WMF issued this morning along with STC.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation and Saudi Telecom (STC) partner to provide access to Wikipedia free of mobile data charges in the Middle East

2012-10-14 Thread Moushira Elamrawy
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:31 AM, Moushira Elamrawy moushi...@gmail.com wrote: @Andreas: Censorship! Thats interesting --but my understanding is that Wikiipedia is fine in KSA, except for some visual content that is