Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reappointment of Bishakha Datta as WMF Trustee

2012-12-28 Thread Nurunnaby Chowdhury Hasive
wow..good news.. Congratulations Bishakha.. On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Bishakha Datta wrote: > Thank you, all. > > It's been a terrific experience, and I hope to continue to be of use to the > Foundation and to the movement in my next term. > > Best > Bishakha > > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reappointment of Bishakha Datta as WMF Trustee

2012-12-28 Thread Bishakha Datta
Thank you, all. It's been a terrific experience, and I hope to continue to be of use to the Foundation and to the movement in my next term. Best Bishakha On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 3:18 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > Excellent decision ! > > Flo > > On 12/28/12 4:39 PM, Geoff Brigham wrote > > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear James, My sincere congratulations for this important step, and I am really very happy with a Wikimedia Medicine. But the name "Wiki Med Foundation" - I find the choice for that name just strange (I saw the discussion on Meta too late). "Wikimedia Health", by the way, would be as great as "Wik

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Dec 28, 2012 9:53 PM, "Bence Damokos" wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > > On Dec 28, 2012 7:12 PM, "Lodewijk" wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > it should probably be emphasized that this organization was founded > > against > > > the advice of the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread David Gerard
On 29 December 2012 00:05, James Heilman wrote: > Yes so Wiki Med Foundation Inc incorporated Dec 19, 2012 and we had our Isn't the name just a little prone to confusion with Wikimedia Foundation? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rationale for fundraising record?

2012-12-28 Thread Milos Rancic
I'd really like to hear something more than a guess :) In the sense: Could it be said that we are now reasonably financially safe? On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > I read the official blog [1] about it, but it doesn't have rationale. > And I am too lazy to analyze it. > > So

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread James Heilman
Yes so Wiki Med Foundation Inc incorporated Dec 19, 2012 and we had our first official board meeting Dec 26, 2012. We have had expressed interest from 57 people from more than a dozen countries with a large group of interested members from India. Our 9 board members are from 7 different countries.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] compromise?

2012-12-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Dec 28, 2012 10:12 PM, "James Salsman" wrote: > > > I'm not quite sure what you mean by multivariate analysis > > I mean as in the tests done May 16, September 20, and October 9 > reported at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012/We_Need_A_Breakthrough > without adjusting the best per

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Multivariate Fundraising Tests (Re: compromise?)

2012-12-28 Thread James Salsman
Matt, I have specific answers to most of your questions, but I don't know whether others on wikimedia-l would be interested in them, and I'm not sure about the specifics of a couple terms you used relative to what I remember of the testing harness, so I'll reply in more detail off-list with some qu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] compromise?

2012-12-28 Thread Richard Symonds
I'm on a train so this will be brief... But let's say we do what you suggest, and it only raises 90% of what is needed. What then? I've had to pare back WMUKs budget in the past few weeks to what the FDC granted. It's difficult enough to do on a smaller budget, I dread to think how the WMF would d

[Wikimedia-l] Multivariate Fundraising Tests (Re: compromise?)

2012-12-28 Thread Matthew Walker
James, On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM, James Salsman wrote: > I mean as in the tests done May 16, September 20, and October 9 > reported at > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012/We_Need_A_Breakthrough > without adjusting the best performing pull-down delivery combined > banner/landi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] compromise?

2012-12-28 Thread Steven Walling
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:45 PM, James Salsman wrote: > How about for the April fundraiser, instead of setting a dollar value > goal, we agree to use multivariate analysis instead of A/B testing to > optimize the messaging from volunteer submissions in advance, then run > the whole thing for a fi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] compromise?

2012-12-28 Thread James Salsman
> I'm not quite sure what you mean by multivariate analysis I mean as in the tests done May 16, September 20, and October 9 reported at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012/We_Need_A_Breakthrough without adjusting the best performing pull-down delivery combined banner/landing page from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Matthew Roth
Wow, I want to start a Thematic Organization just so I can call it a "thorg"! What a great acronym :) On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Bence Damokos wrote: > Thank you Ziko – your post is great! ( > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Thematic_Organizations#Scope_and_names_for_moveme

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Bence Damokos
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On Dec 28, 2012 7:12 PM, "Lodewijk" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > it should probably be emphasized that this organization was founded > against > > the advice of the Wikimedia Foundations' Affiliate Committee. It is not > > recognized at this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Bence Damokos
Thank you Ziko – your post is great! ( http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Thematic_Organizations#Scope_and_names_for_movement_entities ) Best regards, Bence (P.S. AffCom is still looking for new members ready to think about the hard questions that are raised there: http://meta.wikimedi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee activity levels

2012-12-28 Thread Nathan
The obvious point, which has been made many times on this list over the years, is that activity on mailing lists or meta is not a good proxy for measuring the activity of a member of the board. The best measure would be engagement with the duties of the board (which don't include posting on the lis

Re: [Wikimedia-l] compromise?

2012-12-28 Thread Richard Symonds
That would be complex, and could be a disaster... I'd appreciate some input from folks like Tango. On Dec 28, 2012 9:46 PM, "James Salsman" wrote: > How about for the April fundraiser, instead of setting a dollar value > goal, we agree to use multivariate analysis instead of A/B testing to > opti

Re: [Wikimedia-l] compromise?

2012-12-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
I'm not quite sure what you mean by multivariate analysis... You only seem to be talking about one variable - the message. On Dec 28, 2012 9:46 PM, "James Salsman" wrote: > How about for the April fundraiser, instead of setting a dollar value > goal, we agree to use multivariate analysis instead

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
On Dec 28, 2012 7:12 PM, "Lodewijk" wrote: > > Hi, > > it should probably be emphasized that this organization was founded against > the advice of the Wikimedia Foundations' Affiliate Committee. It is not > recognized at this point. Does it have a license to use the Wikimedia trademark in its nam

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reappointment of Bishakha Datta as WMF Trustee

2012-12-28 Thread Florence Devouard
Excellent decision ! Flo On 12/28/12 4:39 PM, Geoff Brigham wrote I am happy to report that Bishakha Datta has been reappointed as a Trustee on the WMF Board for another two-year term. The Board resolution may be found here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Bishakha_Datta_Reappo

[Wikimedia-l] WMF trustee activity levels

2012-12-28 Thread ENWP Pine
Sj, I'm addressing this question to you because you seem to be the most active trustee in the areas where I checked for trustee activity, and also because you were one of the authors of the “Building a lasting movement” workshop submission to Wikimania 2012. I would also be interested in hearin

[Wikimedia-l] compromise?

2012-12-28 Thread James Salsman
How about for the April fundraiser, instead of setting a dollar value goal, we agree to use multivariate analysis instead of A/B testing to optimize the messaging from volunteer submissions in advance, then run the whole thing for a fixed time frame, say three weeks, and then use the actual amount

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Indeed, I made use of my last day before leaving for Germany (5 days) to present some thoughts about the affiliations, on that very talk page. Kind regards Ziko 2012/12/28 Lodewijk : > Hi, > > it should probably be emphasized that this organization was founded against > the advice of the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF HR and leadership questions

2012-12-28 Thread Quim Gil
Just a personal opinion about "talent retention" at the WMF. There are not many factors contributing to retention in an organization like this, in a context like ours: - Tech sector is very competitive. Not even high pays, bonuses, stocks and perks are any assurance of keeping people around f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reappointment of Bishakha Datta as WMF Trustee

2012-12-28 Thread Sydney Poore
Awesome news. Sydney On Dec 28, 2012 10:39 AM, "Geoff Brigham" wrote: > I am happy to report that Bishakha Datta has been reappointed as a Trustee > on the WMF Board for another two-year term. > > The Board resolution may be found here: > > > http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Bishak

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reappointment of Bishakha Datta as WMF Trustee

2012-12-28 Thread Arun Ramarathnam
This is great news indeed. Congratulations Bishakha!!! regards Arun On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Geoff Brigham wrote: > I am happy to report that Bishakha Datta has been reappointed as a Trustee > on the WMF Board for another two-year term. > > The Board resolution may be found here: > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Lodewijk
Hi, it should probably be emphasized that this organization was founded against the advice of the Wikimedia Foundations' Affiliate Committee. It is not recognized at this point. I am also quite unhappy about the chosen name because of the obvious confusion that is to be expected. But speaking in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reappointment of Bishakha Datta as WMF Trustee

2012-12-28 Thread Pavel Richter
Great news! Pavel Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Pavel Richter Vorstand Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tel.: +49 - 30 - 219 158 260 Twitter: @pavel 2012/12/28 Geoff Brigham > I am happy to report that Bishakha Datta has been reappointed as a Trustee > on the WMF Board for another two-year term. > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rationale for fundraising record?

2012-12-28 Thread Oliver Keyes
(personal capacity, for a moment) I make this the...third or fourth? currently active thread on this mailing list that has been turned into "make more money, pay more money and invest it in credit unions". James, I don't think there's anything you've said here that you haven't said 2, 3, 5 or 20

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rationale for fundraising record?

2012-12-28 Thread James Salsman
> people are not contributing in the English language markets this > year as opposed to last What is the evidence for that? > because of trends when the English Wikipedia's popularity has not > significantly changed. English projects per http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/pageviews November 2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF HR and leadership questions

2012-12-28 Thread Sage Ross
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Steven Zhang wrote: > Staff and contractors page includes Fellows...not sure about contractor and > such but I'm pretty sure they are put on there too. > The staff and contractors page includes some contractors but not all. By default, a contractor is not added

Re: [Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
Very nice! I'll expect a performance in Hong Kong! On a serious note, have you seen Geoff's comments on naming of affiliate organisations? On Dec 28, 2012 4:18 PM, "Ziko van Dijk" wrote: > Hello, > A week ago, as I found out now, a new association has been found in > New York: "Wiki Med Foundati

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF HR and leadership questions

2012-12-28 Thread Steven Zhang
Staff and contractors page includes Fellows...not sure about contractor and such but I'm pretty sure they are put on there too. Steve Zhang Sent from my iPhone On 29/12/2012, at 12:14 AM, Thehelpfulone wrote: > On 28 December 2012 10:59, Andrew Gray wrote: > >> On 28 December 2012 07:31, Ma

[Wikimedia-l] If I could talk to the wiki folks...

2012-12-28 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, A week ago, as I found out now, a new association has been found in New York: "Wiki Med Foundation, Inc." (!). We have the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., we have some other Wikimedias, we have MediaWiki... how is the ordinary man on the street supposed to have the slightest chance to understand

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reappointment of Bishakha Datta as WMF Trustee

2012-12-28 Thread RadhaKrishna Arvapally
Wow! Congratulations !!! -RK On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > Good news :) Congratulations :) > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 28 December 2012 16:39, Geoff Brigham wrote: > > > I am happy to report that Bishakha Datta has been reappointed as a > Trustee >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Reappointment of Bishakha Datta as WMF Trustee

2012-12-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Good news :) Congratulations :) Thanks, GerardM On 28 December 2012 16:39, Geoff Brigham wrote: > I am happy to report that Bishakha Datta has been reappointed as a Trustee > on the WMF Board for another two-year term. > > The Board resolution may be found here: > > > http://wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] Reappointment of Bishakha Datta as WMF Trustee

2012-12-28 Thread Geoff Brigham
I am happy to report that Bishakha Datta has been reappointed as a Trustee on the WMF Board for another two-year term. The Board resolution may be found here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Bishakha_Datta_Reappointment_2012 The Board minutes may be found here: http://wikimediaf

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF HR and leadership questions

2012-12-28 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 28 December 2012 10:59, Andrew Gray wrote: > On 28 December 2012 07:31, Matthew Roth wrote: > > >> A count of office.wikimedia.org account deactivations suggests that > >> about 59 people left the WMF in 2012, for whatever reason. To me, that > >> seems like a lot of people. Maybe it's occasi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] No access to the Uzbek Wikipedia in Uzbekistan

2012-12-28 Thread Anonymous User
Thank you everyone for your help, and I especially appreciate Sumanah for setting up the bug and making the RT ticket happen. Unfortunately, I cannot track the progress of the RT ticket, but I am sure someone will keep us posted on the Bugzilla bug or on this list. Eternal gratitude to everyone in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF HR and leadership questions

2012-12-28 Thread Andrew Gray
On 28 December 2012 07:31, Matthew Roth wrote: >> A count of office.wikimedia.org account deactivations suggests that >> about 59 people left the WMF in 2012, for whatever reason. To me, that >> seems like a lot of people. Maybe it's occasionally good for people to >> leave, but so many? > > Does

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rationale for fundraising record?

2012-12-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Milos Rancic wrote: > > In relation to the question above, I'd be much more happy to hear that > this is the product of staff's work, than the product of some global > social changes. Although it would be great if the world is changing so > quickly, it's much more