Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announceme​nt by the Supervisor​y Board of Wikimedia Deutschlan​d

2014-05-19 Thread Kevin Gorman
Thank you Pavel for your service to the projects and your time spent at WMDE. I hope you choose to stick around the Wikimedia projects moving forward, even if in a somewhat lower key role than you reviously held. Five years is quite a lot of time - and stress - for someone to hold an executive

Re: [Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata IRC office hour

2014-05-19 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey everyone :) I'll be doing another Wikidata office hour on IRC. It will take place on May 19th at 5PM UTC in #wikimedia-office. For your timezone please see

Re: [Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata IRC office hour

2014-05-19 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hey folks :) Just a quick reminder that this is in 1 hour. Sorry. Timezones are confusing -.- I mean 2 hours of course. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for

[Wikimedia-l] Upcoming office hour with Lila Tretikov

2014-05-19 Thread Maggie Dennis
Hi, guys. The WMF Incoming Executive Director Lila Tretikov will be hosting an office hour on IRC starting at 2330 UTC on Wednesday 5/21 and ending at 0030 on Thursday 5/22. (See http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=23min=30sec=0day=21month=05year=2014for time conversion

Re: [Wikimedia-l] May VisualEditor Office Hour

2014-05-19 Thread Maggie Dennis
Just a reminder that this meeting is happening today, 19 May, at 1800 UTC. Hope to see you there! Maggie On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Maggie Dennis mden...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi, everyone. I just wanted to let you know, so you could mark your calendars if interested, that the May IRC

Re: [Wikimedia-l] next Wikidata IRC office hour

2014-05-19 Thread John Lewis
The log is now available at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2014-05-19 Thank you to all who attended :) John Lewis ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announceme​nt by the Supervisor​y Board of Wikimedia Deutschlan​d

2014-05-19 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Nikolas Becker nikolas.bec...@wikimedia.de wrote: On behalf of the Supervisory Board of Wikimedia Deutschland I would like to thank Pavel for his very good work and for both the professionalism and passion with which he has shaped the development of Wikimedia

[Wikimedia-l] RfC Let's Talk! Program Evaluation and Metrics

2014-05-19 Thread Jaime Anstee
Greetings! With apologies for any cross-posting, we are contacting you all now as we are reaching out to the Wikimedia community and all program leaders, evaluators, volunteers, and others who hold a stake and/or interest in Wikimedia program evaluation and design. We present this request for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-19 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Once new search is working, the first enhancement to the search should be a clustering feature.[3] Wouldn't such a feature pretty much solve the problem that we currently have with search, and which won't be solved

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-19 Thread Risker
On 19 May 2014 18:59, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Once new search is working, the first enhancement to the search should be a clustering feature.[3] Wouldn't such a feature pretty much solve the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defining impact for Wikimedia programs, grants and evaluation

2014-05-19 Thread Edward Galvez
Hi Pine, Thank you for your bringing this page to our attention and for raising these interesting questions. I would have to agree that the “Program evaluation basics” page is not well-designed and should be revisited. We are actually going to be redesigning the entire evaluation portal soon and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 May 2014 08:26, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm giving this thread a poke because we're still waiting for answers to questions. The most recent email was from Srikanth on May 7. But Benghazi! - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 20 May 2014 00:05, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Russavia's post directed to me earlier in this thread managed in one stroke to confirm just about everything that I said: that comments from those who aren't regular participants on Commons are to be belittled and ignored, that even a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-19 Thread Risker
On 19 May 2014 19:08, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 May 2014 00:05, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Russavia's post directed to me earlier in this thread managed in one stroke to confirm just about everything that I said: that comments from those who aren't regular

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 20 May 2014 00:14, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I did give serious consideration to going and properly categorizing the image, but given the underlying threat from Russavia, and my disinclination to be blocked, I'll leave it to someone who finds the Commons experience less

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Defining impact for Wikimedia programs, grants and evaluation

2014-05-19 Thread Nathan
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Edward Galvez egal...@wikimedia.orgwrote: Hi Pine, Thank you for your bringing this page to our attention and for raising these interesting questions. I would have to agree that the “Program evaluation basics” page is not well-designed and should be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-19 Thread Nathan
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:12 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 May 2014 00:14, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I did give serious consideration to going and properly categorizing the image, but given the underlying threat from Russavia, and my disinclination to be

[Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: I'll be leaving Commons categorisation until it's tags rather than ridiculously specific subcategories. Commons has tags right now: they're called categories. Or is there a distinction you're making? :-) Tim and I discussed this a few weeks ago and I was mostly on your side,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-19 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 May 2014 18:59, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Once new search is working, the first enhancement to the search should be a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread Nathan
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:16 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: I'll be leaving Commons categorisation until it's tags rather than ridiculously specific subcategories. Commons has tags right now: they're called categories. Or is there a distinction you're making?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread MZMcBride
Nathan wrote: Sure - ease of use for tagging and the sometimes complex hierarchical nature of categories. For ease of use (adding and removing), I think most wikis have HotCat (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/HotCat). Is that insufficient? Regarding hierarchy, there's absolutely no technical

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Easy and obvious when you look at it with eyes that do not expect English. A tag will be linked to Wikidata. Consequently it will show differently depending on the language you have selected for yourself. It is just these other people who will be serviced. Another reason is that there are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread Nathan
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:44 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Nathan wrote: Sure - ease of use for tagging and the sometimes complex hierarchical nature of categories. For ease of use (adding and removing), I think most wikis have HotCat (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/HotCat).

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread Lane Rasberry
MZMcBride - Categories are hierarchical and people worry about them overlapping. Tags have no hierarchy. The major problem is that labor is wasted because there is no easy way to search intersections of categories. Instead of having a category for 18th century French painters, it would be ideal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread MZMcBride
Lane Rasberry wrote: MZMcBride - Categories are hierarchical and people worry about them overlapping. Tags have no hierarchy. Categories _can be_ hierarchical, but categories can simultaneously be flat. People worry about a lot of things, but that doesn't mean there are substantive issues to be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
I think intersection is the most significant cause of the current categorisation system. My understanding of the current reasoning behind categorisation as seen on Commons and elsewhere is that: 1) the lack of category intersection causes the very specific categories, which are essentially saved

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-19 Thread Rand McRanderson
The difference between categories and tags is semantic but those semantics determine how the feature is used. I suppose from an abstract technical perspective what is needed is different classes of category-like objects based on the purpose it should serve and displayed separately and possibly