Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimediach-l] red cross

On 04/07/14 00:26, rupert THURNER wrote: > did anybody of you already have contact with the red cross or the icrc? > concerning wikipedia, offline, commons, maps, wikinews? would there be > any topic interesting for a cooperation? Yes; one librarian from the ICRC photo department recently visited

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

Thank you... there is a message on Hahc21's talk page. > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 01:21:44 -0430 > From: hah...@gmail.com > To: wiki.p...@gmail.com > CC: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors > > How can I help? > > > 2014-07-04 0:20 G

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

Leigh was giving a presentation to professors and while the presentation was happening the professors' ESWP user pages were being deleted. Can you contact Leigh on her ES talk page and attempt to figure out what was happening with those user pages as well as the conduct of the people involved in th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] First _draft_ goals for WMF engineering/product

On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Michael Peel wrote: > I am worried by how short-term the current plans/goals are, though. I know > that > a lot of work that the engineering department does, particularly with regards > software, which can only be planned on a quarterly basis to ensure it's as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

How can I help? 2014-07-04 0:20 GMT-04:30 Pine W : > Sounds like a local issue for ES wiki. I'll ask Hahc21 to look at this. > > Pine > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter > wrote: > >> es.wiki creating user pages >> >> > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:20:26 +0200 >> > From: ne

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comment on the content, not the contributor - with staff?

In general, supervisors in any organization should be interested in the performance of their employees. If there is evidence that an employee is slacking, being unresponsive, or creating unnecessary friction, I would expect a supervisor to exercise good judgement in listening to the concern, making

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Monthly report of activities in Belgium: June

Thank you Romaine. It's nice to hear of Wikimedia Belgium's progress. Those photos are making me hungry. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Romaine Wiki wrote: > (Translations of this report are also available in Dutch >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] red cross

Definitely the ICRC sounds like a good partner organization. My first thought is that it would be good if they made their photography available on Commons. There might also be some opportunities for collaboration in Wikipedia Zero-like accessibility initiatives, and with the Wiki Med Foundation. P

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

Sounds like a local issue for ES wiki. I'll ask Hahc21 to look at this. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Leigh Thelmadatter wrote: > es.wiki creating user pages > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:20:26 +0200 > > From: nemow...@gmail.com > > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Subject:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Evacuation

Nice work. Pine On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > David, thanks for posting that link here. > > Magnus, it looks like you've made (yet another) excellent tool, and > described the problem it aims to alleviate in an eloquent and accessible > way. > > Great to see a step forw

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

On 7/3/2014 8:33 PM, James Salsman wrote: a volunteer who has single-handedly saved volunteer-centuries of time and then taken a principled, non-zero sum stand to offer agreement to the FOSS release requirement on Wikimedia Labs in return for the resources necessary to build new systems. If that'

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

John: thank you again. James Salsman writes: > suggestions that IA has any more legal risk than the Foundation Of course they do. The Wayback Machine alone is the largest publicly-accessible archive of copyrighted material in the world. The only other archives that come within magnitudes of tha

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

>... the standard category of a programmer who doesn't work well > with non-programmers and sucks at writing specs/documentation. That is an extremely rude way to characterize a volunteer who has single-handedly saved volunteer-centuries of time and then taken a principled, non-zero sum stand to o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Israel received the Roaring Lion Award for the Hebrew Wikipedia 10th anniversary PR

Congratulations! Muchas felicidades :) El jul 3, 2014 8:57 p.m., "Sydney Poore" escribió: > That's awesome. Congrats to Hebrew Wikipedia ! > > Sydney > > Sydney Poore > User:FloNight > Wikipedian in Residence > at Cochrane Collaboration > > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Isr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 07/03/2014 07:03 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > > Is Reftools FOSS? > > No, it is not, Thanks Marc. It seems to me that the problem is very simple, in that case: how to come up with a free/libre tool, to be hosted on WMFlabs, that replic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Israel received the Roaring Lion Award for the Hebrew Wikipedia 10th anniversary PR

That's awesome. Congrats to Hebrew Wikipedia ! Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Wikipedian in Residence at Cochrane Collaboration On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel < it...@wikimedia.org.il> wrote: > Hey, > > I'm very excited to share that last night, we received the aw

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Israel received the Roaring Lion Award for the Hebrew Wikipedia 10th anniversary PR

Felicidades!!! > From: gerard.meijs...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 01:35:15 +0200 > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Israel > received the Roaring Lion Award for the Hebrew Wikipedia 10th anniversary PR > > Hoi, > Congratu

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

As I said I'm waiting for feedback first. What I sent to Coren is just a rough draft. It will be posted to a wiki and more input will be requested. On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Hello John, > > On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:39 PM, John wrote: > > > However I spent some time w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

Hello John, On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 8:39 PM, John wrote: > However I spent some time with him and chiseled out a few things, have a > grasp on exactly what Dispenser wants to accomplish and the resources > necessary to do it. (probably upwards of 25-30k dollars) I wrote up a rough > outline and b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Evacuation

David, thanks for posting that link here. Magnus, it looks like you've made (yet another) excellent tool, and described the problem it aims to alleviate in an eloquent and accessible way. Great to see a step forward in this area! Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]] On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:35 PM, David G

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

Ill be blunt here, Dispenser's existing tools do not need more than a few hundred megabytes of space for storage. He however does have an idea for a set of tools (or one super massive depending on your perspective) which is a resource hog and will need a consult with WMF legal to OK it. Up until to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 5:20 AM, James Salsman wrote: > > throwing a tantrum because WMF won't give him 24TB of > > storage for a project that has legal questionablity > > If society depended on lawyers for determining the parameters of their > inverted indices, you would all be using WAIS for the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

> I don't think it's a donation if you're getting something (a survey) in > return. How could the Foundation possibly not benefit from understanding contributors' opinions about general strategic goals for improving participation? I also want development of accuracy review. If there are any rea

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

You say 'if only the Foundation matches my donation'... I don't want to sound daft, but from a financial viewpoint, I don't think it's a donation if you're getting something (a survey) in return. On 4 Jul 2014 00:18, "James Salsman" wrote: > > [Calling] when you ask for a huge chunk of hardware [

Re: [Wikimedia-l] red cross

I think John Cummings might know a bit. On 3 Jul 2014 23:27, "rupert THURNER" wrote: > hi, > > did anybody of you already have contact with the red cross or the icrc? > concerning wikipedia, offline, commons, maps, wikinews? would there be any > topic interesting for a cooperation? > > rupert > _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Israel received the Roaring Lion Award for the Hebrew Wikipedia 10th anniversary PR

Hoi, Congratulations.. Many awards are known at Wikidata and, the "Roaring Lion Award" is now one of them. Given that the Israeli chapter received this award, the item for the chapter has been updated with this fact. Also added were its creation date and the fact that it is a chapter. It turns ou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

> Dispenser's tools appear to be migrated at: > http://tools.wmflabs.org/dispenser/view/Main_Page "This page was last modified on 24 July 2012 at 04:01 (UTC)" https://tools.wmflabs.org/dispenser/cgi-bin/categorder.py/Category:All_articles_with_improper_non-free_content is still down. https://en

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

On 07/03/2014 07:03 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote: > Is Reftools FOSS? Is the source code available? If so, why isn't somebody > else just migrating it to WMFlabs, and what can be done to help that happen? No, it is not, and Dispenser has explicitly stated that nobody was allowed to run it. In particula

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

> Is Reftools FOSS? Is the source code available? If so, why isn't somebody > else just migrating it to WMFlabs, and what can be done to help that happen? I may be missing something, but Dispenser's tools appear to be migrated at: http://tools.wmflabs.org/dispenser/view/Main_Page -- Douglas [[Use

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

> [Calling] when you ask for a huge chunk of hardware [and] someone > dares to ask what you plan to do with it, once you get it for free ... > censorship is trolling I was not complaining about the question, I was sincerely complaining about the answer. We need Foundation staff with the capability

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Fæ wrote: > > I was gobsmacked to find that the reflinks tool had not been carefully > transitioned and no plan for it was in place, Me too, to the extent I'm gobsmacked by anything these days. My students love this tool, it's one of the primary things that help m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

On 3 July 2014 19:16, Gregory Varnum wrote: > That all seems logical, appropriate, and aligned with our current > procedures. So..what's the problem? Left hand not talking to the right hand I think. I was gobsmacked to find that the reflinks tool had not been carefully transitioned and no plan f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Spam] Re: 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

On 3 July 2014 18:49, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > Also, 24T is a significant chunk of the space available to Labs in > general; storage is nowhere near as inexpensive in our context as would > be with off-the-shelf customer-grade disks. There's nothing that > prevents us from allocating significa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

And imagine what I could do with a space rocket and a nuclear reactor! Wikipedia Mars mission! ANYONE can run tools on Labs for free! It's just when you ask for a huge chunk of hardware that someone dares to ask what you plan to do with it, once you get it for free. Calling that censorship if trol

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

>... I am glad that there is at least some sanity checking On my happy planet, sanity means taking historical progress into account when telling people that they have to fill out a form and wait for committee review when making a reasonable request for an obvious need. There is so much more that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Commons-l] Evacuation

Thank you, Magnus! (add wikimedia-l to cc) - d. On 3 July 2014 21:47, Magnus Manske wrote: > An attempt to alleviate the tensions caused by file deletions on Commons: > > http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/?p=218 > > ___ > Commons-l mailing list > comm

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:14 PM, James Salsman wrote: > > Why does the Foundation need a proposal to do that? Where is that > requirement documented? > I work in a research institute that has >20 Petabyte of spinning disk. If I need 20TB of server-grade storage, I have to make a formal request,

[Wikimedia-l] red cross

hi, did anybody of you already have contact with the red cross or the icrc? concerning wikipedia, offline, commons, maps, wikinews? would there be any topic interesting for a cooperation? rupert ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

es.wiki creating user pages > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 00:20:26 +0200 > From: nemow...@gmail.com > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors > > Risker, 04/07/2014 00:15: > > What project(s) are you working on? > > Bibliotecarios =

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

Risker, 04/07/2014 00:15: > What project(s) are you working on? Bibliotecarios = es.wiki crat-sysops. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscrib

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

What project(s) are you working on? Risker On 3 July 2014 18:12, Leigh Thelmadatter wrote: > I am, at this moment, trying to give a workshop on Wikipedia to professors > and they are having their own user pages being speedily deleted by > Tarawa1943 and Taichi We have sent polite messages

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

>... His demands for the storage are for a new version of > the tool he is yet to write that is meant to actually cache > the external link's webpages...likely to need Legal to look into Just like any search engine keeps a reconstructable representation of the indexed text. There is absolutely no

[Wikimedia-l] Interference in workshop for professors

I am, at this moment, trying to give a workshop on Wikipedia to professors and they are having their own user pages being speedily deleted by Tarawa1943 and Taichi We have sent polite messages to them and bibliotecarios (admins) but the deletions continue. Suggestions

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Monthly report of activities in Belgium: June

(Translations of this report are also available in Dutch and French

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comment on the content, not the contributor - with staff?

On 03/07/14 18:16, Pine W wrote: In the past, this mailing list has been used for discussions of staff conduct, which I am not sure is the best idea when identifiable people are involved. I suggest that a first line of approach would be to discuss the matter civilly with the people directly invol

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

Oh, I though it said if you display positive expectations you are more likely to have positive outcomes. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Peter Gervai Sent: 03 July 2014 02:21 PM T

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

I'm in the process of working with Dispenser to get said proposal written and the ball rolling. However this process will take some time On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Gregory Varnum wrote: > That all seems logical, appropriate, and aligned with our current > procedures. So..what's the problem?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

That all seems logical, appropriate, and aligned with our current procedures. So..what's the problem? -greg aka varnent On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Marc A. Pelletier wrote: > On 07/03/2014 07:12 AM, James Salsman wrote: > > Can someone please explain to me why the Foundation can't give > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Comment on the content, not the contributor - with staff?

In the past, this mailing list has been used for discussions of staff conduct, which I am not sure is the best idea when identifiable people are involved. I suggest that a first line of approach would be to discuss the matter civilly with the people directly involved including the employee and othe

[Wikimedia-l] Comment on the content, not the contributor - with staff?

Hey, all. Bit of a question, here. Basically, how does "comment on the content, not the contributor" apply to staff and contractors? What can we, as volunteers, do when we believe staff have gone too far (besides create drama on a mailing list)? In many of our communities, we have a saying:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

On 07/03/2014 07:12 AM, James Salsman wrote: > Can someone please explain to me why the Foundation can't give > User:Dispenser 24 TB on Tool Labs? To make matters a bit clearer, Dispenser's current Reflinks tool (and all his others) do not need 24T of storage (nor would toolserver have had that st

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to WMF June 2014 Metrics & Activities Meeting: Thursday, July 3, 18:00 UTC

REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Praveena Maharaj wrote: > Dear all, > The next WMF metrics and activities meeting will take place on Thursday, > July 3, 2014 at 6 PM UTC (11 AM PDT). The IRC channel is > #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net and t

[Wikimedia-l] FDC nominations - shortlist announced

Dear all, Many thanks to all those who nominated themselves for the four vacancies on the FDC; we have an excellent slate of candidates. The shortlist of candidates has been posted on meta: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Funds_Dissemination_Committee/Nominations#Update_from_the_Board_

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

Probably something better suited for a technical mailing list. Not really something we can help with on Wikimedia-l as very few of us have the technical skills to know what's going on... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in Englan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Peter Southwood wrote: > Wonderful, > I have high expectations of your ability and willingness to solve these > problems, > Please notify us of your success so we can celebrate. This was neither constructive nor civilised. It shows that you have missed the point,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

> throwing a tantrum because WMF won't give him 24TB of > storage for a project that has legal questionablity If society depended on lawyers for determining the parameters of their inverted indices, you would all be using WAIS for the last five years of corporate press releases for your reference

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

Im mobile right now, do this will be short. He is throwing a tantrum because WMF won't give him 24TB of storage for a project that has legal questionablity. So he is using his existing tools as leverage aka hostages to force the issue. I find that very bad behavior on his part On Thursday, July 3,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

On 3 Jul 2014, at 12:14, Strainu wrote: > 2014-07-03 14:12 GMT+03:00 James Salsman : >> Can someone please explain to me why the Foundation can't give >> User:Dispenser 24 TB on Tool Labs? > > > Context please? There's been a discussion of this topic going on at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

Wonderful, I have high expectations of your ability and willingness to solve these problems, Please notify us of your success so we can celebrate. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf O

Re: [Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

2014-07-03 14:12 GMT+03:00 James Salsman : > Can someone please explain to me why the Foundation can't give > User:Dispenser 24 TB on Tool Labs? Context please? Strainu ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mail

[Wikimedia-l] 24 TB for User:Dispenser on Tool Labs please

Can someone please explain to me why the Foundation can't give User:Dispenser 24 TB on Tool Labs? To me this just shouts "some of our people are not yet in the top quintile of their fields." Seriously. If you don't want to have to wait for REST transactions, it seems like a completely reasonable am

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

Hi Michael, On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:16:58 +0100 Michael Maggs wrote: > Anyone with even a passing familiarity with the notice boards on Commons, or > who is subscribed to this mailing list, will be aware of a huge, wide-ranging > and unfocused set of disputes and ill-natured arguments that have b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The Internet's Own Boy: Aaron Swartz

Hi Jake [and all], On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 23:04:57 -0700 Jake Orlowitz wrote: > The Aaron Swartz Documentary was released this weekend. I don't know what > quite to say except that you should watch it, and it's free (cause it's > CC-licensed). > > Watch on youtube: >