Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Magnus Manske Day!

2016-01-25 Thread Jane Darnell
I couldn't agree more, but isn't this missing link going to be filled by the article placeholder? Maybe I am missing something, but it was my understanding that the article placeholder could be used for those redirects that are not alternate spellings for the same person and so forth On Mon, Jan 2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Magnus Manske Day!

2016-01-25 Thread Jane Darnell
...which is now added to the Wikipedia page On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Ed Erhart wrote: > Don't forget the Wikimedia Blog's profile of Magnus for Wikipedia's 15th > anniversary! > > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/01/18/fifteen-years-wikipedia-magnus-manske/ > > --Ed > > On Sun, Jan 24, 20

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Magnus Manske Day!

2016-01-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am in two minds of the "article placeholder" as it is it is certainly not as good as Reasonator. It needs additional effort to make it sing. With examples it may be wonderful but I have not seen anything that inspires. Thanks, GerardM On 25 January 2016 at 09:24, Jane Darnell wrote:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Magnus Manske Day!

2016-01-25 Thread Steinsplitter Wiki
Magnus moved Wikipedia forward by coding mediawiki. And he is still creating useful tools. Thanks Magnus for your hard work! We can be proud to have Magnus in the Wikimedia movement. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Magnus_Manske_Day -- ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > What you hear is "Wikidata is unreliable" (compared to the respective > Wikipedia; proof, anyone? Please, show me proof; silence or anecdotes don't > count) Any non-trivial content you want to add to Wikipedia today has to fulfil one basi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Maybe.. but not all Wikipedias are the same. It is verifiable that Wikipedia would easily benefit from Wikidata from Wikidata by replacing the existing links and red links with functionality that uses Wikidata. It happens often that I work on content in Wikipedia and find an error rate of 20%

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > It happens often that I work on content in Wikipedia and find an error rate > of 20%. Could you give some specific examples of such cases, with links to the relevant article versions? Andreas _

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I regularly blog. It was mentioned in one of my blogposts [1].. By the way the obvious would be to do some research yourself. Paper tigers [2] are those tigers that rely on what others have to say, Thanks., GerardM [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2016/01/wikipedia-recovery-and-m

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Eh, wrong link ... http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2016/01/wikipedia-20-error-rate.html On 25 January 2016 at 17:29, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Hoi, > I regularly blog. It was mentioned in one of my blogposts [1].. By the way > the obvious would be to do some research yourself. Paper tiger

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Jane Darnell
Actually I think Wikidata is sourced more thoroughly than any single Wikipedia. Looking at the last chart in those stats, less than 10% of all items have zero sitelinks, and we can't see in the stats whether 100% of those have zero referenced statements, but I would assume that is not the case, esp

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Affiliations Committee appointments, January 2016

2016-01-25 Thread Edward Galvez
Congratulations! On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Josh Lim wrote: > Hi everyone, > > First of all, I want to congratulate everyone joining (or re-joining) the > Committee this cycle. Some of the Wikimedia movement’s best minds will be > joining the rest of the Committee, and I have full confi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] “Reliable”, “Notable”, and “Encyclopaedic” Sources for Automated Solvers for FreeCell

2016-01-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Pine, sorry for the late reply. On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 09:31:31 -0800 Pine W wrote: > Hi Shlomi, > > I would suggest posting those questions on the talk page of the article, > and/or at WP:RSN. > I've posted it to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Magnus Manske Day!

2016-01-25 Thread Ricordisamoa
I hereby propose that this year be called the Magnus Manske Year. Il 25/01/2016 13:33, Steinsplitter Wiki ha scritto: Magnus moved Wikipedia forward by coding mediawiki. And he is still creating useful tools. Thanks Magnus for your hard work! We can be proud to have Magnus in the Wikimedia mov

Re: [Wikimedia-l] “Reliable”, “Notable”, and “Encyclopaedic” Sources for Automated Solvers for FreeCell

2016-01-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Ruslan, sorry for the late reply. On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 13:01:31 +0300 Ruslan wrote: > Answering your questions: > >1. Yes, this conference proceedings paper is sufficiently reliable to be >included into a wikipedia article. (Notability of the paper does not >matter.) The full ref

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Happy Magnus Manske Day!

2016-01-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, +1 .. I would love it when 'the man' himself indicates what we would like for a present (realisation of what he thinks is a breakthrough functionality).. Not ask the 'community', not involve paper tigers but hear the roar of 'the man' Thanks, GerardM On 25 January 2016 at 18:50, Ricord

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Anthony Cole
Why not insist that every piece of data added to wikidata is supported by a reliable source? That's a genuine question. I don't know the answer. Saying, "Well, Wikipedia is unreliable, too" doesn't answer the question. You're all bright people, and I assume there is a good reason not to insist o

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Anthony Cole
I understand there are some data (say, the sky is blue) that are so obvious and well-known that no one would expect a source to be provided. I'm referring to data that everyone on earth doesn't know the answer to, like dry air contains 78.09*% *nitrogen. Anthony Cole On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:39

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Jane Darnell
The answer is quite simple and is exactly the same as it is for Wikipedia: it's a wiki, and not everyone who contributes knows how to add references. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Anthony Cole wrote: > Why not insist that every piece of data added to wikidata is supported by a > reliable sour

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Jane Darnell
Then you are willing to concede that we don't need references on disambiguation pages? What about categories? What about templates? Those all have items in Wikidata as well. On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Anthony Cole wrote: > I understand there are some data (say, the sky is blue) that are so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Profile of Magnus Manske

2016-01-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The question why add sources to every statement has nothing to do with Wikipedia. If Wikipedia is mentioned, it is because Wikipedians say that Wikidata is inferior "because we have sources". When the question is to be asked seriously, the answer becomes quite different. - It is really la

[Wikimedia-l] Ethics of launching Wikidata, vs. ethics of WMF plans for Wikidata

2016-01-25 Thread Pete Forsyth
(Note: I'm creating a new thread which references several old ones; in the most recent, "Profile of Magnus Manske," the conversation has drifted back to Wikidata, so that subject line is no longer applicable.) Andreas Kolbe has argued in multiple threads that Wikidata is fundamentally problematic,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Smartphone editing

2016-01-25 Thread olatunde isaac
Distinguish Wikipedians, I earlier thought I'm probably the only Wikipedian who edit and create articles with smartphone until I saw User:Cullen328's essay on "Smartphone editing" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cullen328/Smartphone_editing). Although, I have a personal computer but there a

[Wikimedia-l] Evidence supporting my statements

2016-01-25 Thread James Heilman
Following the recent statements by JW on his talk page I am planning to publish my email to the board from Oct 7, 2015. I have given the board some time to redact anything they feel is confidential. I have also requested they send me information of what statute, bylaw, or board handbook item they f