Hoi,
Credibility like quality is a two edged sword. When the suggestion is that
we lose credibility, the question is to whom and also is that not exactly
the point. When we take a stance or when we do not take a stance it has
consequences.
The huha with no banner for Bassel has cost our community
Hoi,
As far as I am concerned, the WMF is not democratic. It does not matter.
What does matter is that people only care about their own arguments and are
not willing to entertain the considerations of others. While to some extend
policies are worthwhile at the same time they prevent people from thi
On 02/06/2017 12:43 AM, Christophe Henner wrote:
I'm delighted to see this issue getting some attention. I believe the core
of the problem comes from the WMF's identity, from the start, as a
technology company; so shifting in this direction might be an uphill
battle, but I feel strongly that it'
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Craig Franklin
wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> I know that at times keeping on top of a mailing list as "spicy" of this
> one must have been a tough job. It's one that you've done well, in this
> subscriber's opinion. Thanks for your service.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig Frankli
Hi Richard,
I know that at times keeping on top of a mailing list as "spicy" of this
one must have been a tough job. It's one that you've done well, in this
subscriber's opinion. Thanks for your service.
Cheers,
Craig Franklin
On 6 February 2017 at 07:18, Richard Ames wrote:
> I've decided t
I generally share Yair's reluctance to see the WMF engage in political
activity outside the scope of the Wikimedia mission, but I'd like to
express my support for the WMF taking action specifically in pursuit of
maintaining the freedom to travel and work of its employees and volunteers
engaged in W
I suspect that this was posted not by OhNoItsJamie but by an imposter.
Newyorkbrad
On 2/6/17, OhNoitsJamie 1 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have been long interested in starting my own MediaWiki project, but the
> issue is that I cannot maintain server infrastructure myself. Also, most of
> the MediaWi
OhNoitsJamie 1 wrote:
>I have been long interested in starting my own MediaWiki project, but the
>issue is that I cannot maintain server infrastructure myself. Also, most
>of the MediaWiki hosting services listed do not meet my requirements.
What are your requirements?
>Therefore, I was wondering
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Rogol Domedonfors
wrote:
> Christophe
>
> On 20 December, you wrote
>
> > Basically it's making the legal team life's easier when they need to do
> > small and/or quick changes. They don't have to go through the whole
> > resolution process to change a comma.
> >
>
To stay short and in addition of Seddon said: The more the Wikimedia
movement/WMF chooses to pick a side by using a banner above all projects
(like Wikipedia) - calling yes/no for a strike is taking a side - the more
it can loose credibility. For the same reason as we do not want
advertisements, we
On 2/6/2017 2:01 PM, Yair Rand wrote:
I would still like confirmation of whether it was in fact an urgent
situation, however.
The legal posture of the case (temporary restraining order issued prior
to hearing on a preliminary injunction) makes it urgent. In order to
participate meaningfully in
And a partridge in a pear tree?
But seriously. This is exactly what I was afraid of with opening the door
to political advocacy.
Todd
On Feb 6, 2017 2:24 PM, "James Salsman" wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Bill Takatoshi
> wrote:
> >
> > I have no suggestion for what a banner might
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Mike Godwin wrote:
> Yair Rand writes:
>
> > I find it difficult to believe that this situation is so critical
> > and urgent that an RfC in advance was impossible, so if it does fall
> under
> > that section, the policy was yet again violated.
>
> I don't find it
Hello,
I have been long interested in starting my own MediaWiki project, but the
issue is that I cannot maintain server infrastructure myself. Also, most of
the MediaWiki hosting services listed do not meet my requirements.
Therefore, I was wondering if the WMF would consider starting a new projec
As someone who supports community central notice campaigns, I must point
out that this list is not the appropriate venue for any discussion that
aims to arrive at any decision relating to such a banner campaign and any
thread here would in no way directly result in such action. There are
precedents
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Bill Takatoshi wrote:
>
> I have no suggestion for what a banner might say, but I would like to
> see such proposals from others.
I propose: http://i.imgur.com/3Fb8Zrr.png
Sincerely,
Jim Salsman
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Wikimedia-l mailing
Michelle
Would you let us know how much of the donors' money will be spent on this
legal brief, either directly or in the costs of staff time, please?
It would also be of interest to know why you felt that the input of the WMF
to this brief was essential given that there are 90 other organisations
Christophe
On 20 December, you wrote
> Basically it's making the legal team life's easier when they need to do
> small and/or quick changes. They don't have to go through the whole
> resolution process to change a comma.
>
> Now you write
> the Executive Director
> has authority to set and chang
On 02/06/2017 11:53 AM, Pine W wrote:
Hi Christophe,
You wrote, "This delegates authority, not responsability." Perhaps you
could explain the distinction. It seems to me that the two go hand in hand.
Pine, I disagree. I have had plenty of jobs where I had the authority to
do something, but the
Hi Christophe,
You wrote, "This delegates authority, not responsability." Perhaps you
could explain the distinction. It seems to me that the two go hand in hand.
Speaking generally, it sounds to me like the Board has good intentions
here, but there is a lot of room for error and misunderstandings
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Bill Takatoshi wrote:
>
>... I am sending these links without James's commentary
The part that was deleted from what I had asked to be forwarded
basically said this:
Some of the most senior and respected Foundation leaders have pointed
out that fascist regimes
Dear friends,
As wonderful as it is to see this discussion unfold, showing how many of us
care deeply about humanism and the movement's impact in the material world,
I'd like to observe that it also demonstrates how underdeveloped our
movement-wide political processes are. To my understanding, ou
Yair Rand writes:
> I find it difficult to believe that this situation is so critical
> and urgent that an RfC in advance was impossible, so if it does fall under
> that section, the policy was yet again violated.
I don't find it difficult at all to believe time was of the essence,
but, then, I'm
Arbitration report: WMF Legal and ArbCom weigh in on tension between
disclosure requirements and user privacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2017-02-06/Arbitration_report
Special report: Wolves nip at Wikipedia's heels: A perspective on the cost
of paid editing
http://en
Hey,
On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 5:33 AM, Pete Forsyth wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:17 AM, Lodewijk
>> wrote:
>>
>> What I am curious about, is whether there are also efforts ongoing that
>>> are
>>> focused on influencing community behavior in a more preventive manner.
>>>
>> On 01/27/2017 09
Hey,
I love that thread. Touchy topîc and yet an awesome discussion, Thank you
so much :D
A few month ago, little time after my election, I asked that question on
Facebook and provided my own answer. And yes, I do believe that saying
neutral knowledge should be freely accessible by everyone on th
Hey,
Sorry, with everything I forgot to answer this thread. So I'll provide a
general answer if I may. As I've shared back in June, for this year, some
of my goals include building a strong working relationship between the
Board and the Executive Director, and helping the Board focus on the most
Hi Yair,
Yes board was informed in the process.
Plus when situation started a few days ago, board expressed full support
stepping up against that specific EO.
Christophe HENNER
Chair of the board of trustees
chen...@wikimedia.org
+33650664739
twitter *@schiste*skype *christophe_henn
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