Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-28 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Anna Thank you for that and for writing it on a Sunday. Unfortunately I missed it originally in the two dozen messages in this thread. You mention the names of individuals outside the US who are helping and that is good to see. By "consultants" I meant the companies hired to help you, such as L

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-28 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Greg and Anna This is a most interesting response and illustrates very well the value of transparency. By not explaining clearly to the community what was happening initially, the Foundation has managed to place itself and the community at odds, and has managed to spend ten hours of staff time (t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-28 Thread Gregory Varnum
Pine, A proper response would take the Wikimedia Foundation some time to prepare. As Anna has tried to indicate, and as evidenced by a number of things, there are indeed a number of financial oversights. Regarding costs, as has been previously stated by the Foundation and Board, the Board app

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread John
David Cuenca Tudela, Looking at the proposed grant you only asked for 36000, you get that, then you decided that the WMF is being greedy and you now want more money. If you need 72,000 should not your initial request realized that and adjusted the requesting amount accordingly? I will also note th

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hola Ivan, Así es, la idea es que la WMF pague las becas de viaje para la gente que no se lo puede permitir, y el resto de la conferencia lo pagaría la WMDE. En este caso la cantidad para la bolsa de viaje me parece demasiada baja para hacer que este evento (la primera vez que se realiza) funcion

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Dariusz, What is the point of spending the funds frugally if our mission is not accomplished? Why do we need to compare an event of this magnitude to a small chapter? The money is there to be used, not to sit on top of it without knowing what to do with it. If the WMF doesn't know what to do with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread Natacha Rault
no comprendo! > Le 28 juin 2017 à 20:09, Ivan Martínez a écrit : > > Hola David. > > Hasta donde entendí está escrito en la subvención solicitada un total de 36 > 000 euros, y el resto iba a ser cubierto por fondos que provienen de WMDE. > ¿No es así?. Como voluntario del Comité de Subvenciones

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread Ivan Martínez
Hola David. Hasta donde entendí está escrito en la subvención solicitada un total de 36 000 euros, y el resto iba a ser cubierto por fondos que provienen de WMDE. ¿No es así?. Como voluntario del Comité de Subvenciones a Conferencias, quedo pendiente y en consideración de tú comentario. Saludos,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi David, On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 7:52 PM, David Cuenca Tudela wrote: > Recently the review for the Wikidata conference grant application has > started, and I have complained that the funds allocated are insuficient to > cover the needs of the grants. The requested amount for the grants was > 3

[Wikimedia-l] What to do when the WMF is stingy with the community?

2017-06-28 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Hello, Recently the review for the Wikidata conference grant application has started, and I have complained that the funds allocated are insuficient to cover the needs of the grants. The requested amount for the grants was 36,000 EUR, but in my opinion that should be at least 72,000 EUR. I have t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-28 Thread Robert Fernandez
You're right, it is way too much weight to assign to it. It's a perfectly reasonable statement that can be read as "The fact that we are under budget is a sign that our normal fiscal controls are working" so I'm baffled that it is being interpreted as "We don't care what we spend money on at all a

[Wikimedia-l] Board approval of FDC recommendation 2016-2017- Round 2

2017-06-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
Dear members of the Wikimedia community, On behalf of the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation, I write to confirm that the board has approved [1] the full slate of the FDC’s Round 2 2016-2017 recommendations [2] for the Annual Plan Grants. We also have taken good note of the FDC recommen

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Which templates should be global?

2017-06-28 Thread Richard Farmbrough
Amir, I will certainly try to respond! I had a rather nice universal deployment model pre-lua. On 28 Jun 2017 07:33, "Amir E. Aharoni" wrote: > Hallo, > > TLDR: If you are an experienced editor on any Wikimedia project in any > language, please add your ideas here: > https://meta.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Do you want to get that featured on the WMF blog? Was: Re: The editing contest "Translating Ibero-America" is back! Come and join us :)

2017-06-28 Thread Anna Torres
Sure Samir! How can we start working? ;) 2017-06-27 12:58 GMT-03:00 Samir Elsharbaty : > That was meant to be sent to Anna offlist. Sorry for sending here. Please > ignore this message. > > Samir Elsharbaty > Communications|Wikimedia Foundation > > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:56 PM, Samir Elshar

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-28 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
Pine, Weren't you the person who pushed for months consult and interview and design when I wanted to make mediawiki colors 5% brighter? How come deciding on future of Wikimedia movement is too expensive? Best On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:36 AM Rogol Domedonfors wrote: > Robert, > > Budget control

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] June 23: Update on Wikimedia movement strategy process (#19)

2017-06-28 Thread Rogol Domedonfors
Robert, Budget control is not just accounting. When a process that employs a lot of staff and contractor time was planned to take some period of time and is then extended, then yes, that is a reason to ask about control of costs. Anna alludes to one method of budget control – "We have plenty of m