Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

How would this proposed social media service avoid the problems of existing social media in that they are generally not 'knowledge dissemination services', but spreaders of opinion, disinformation, and often complete rubbish, with a random sprinkling of knowledge scattered among the garbage?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 12:46 AM, Leinonen Teemu wrote: > I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not > abusing > personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting anonymity, > free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

I am very disappointed with this decision and announcement. Surely anyone who has read this notice must be thinking that Brazil is at war, in wreckage. But that is not true. Brazil has never produced so much positive impact in our movement as it has now. Both groups have extensively created

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

On 9 Apr 2018, at 11.28, Peter Southwood > wrote: Why would we want to? Because we want to "become the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge”. How would it further the aims of the movement? Knowledge is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Hi Rodrigo, Eligibility for grants is determined by the Wikimedia Foundation's community resources department, rather than by the Affiliations Committee. I imagine that the Wikimedia Foundation may choose to take our decision into account when evaluating future grant proposals, but it's not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ORES support checklist for communities

Amir, Would you please comment on how these two techniques for creating new articles affects the quality of ORES models? (1) https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2018-March/006236.html (2) https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wiki-research-l/2018-April/006238.html Thank you.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Hi Lodewijk, You're entirely correct in that we don't want to see the situation in Brazil remain as it is, and I think there are many potential ways forward here. Certainly, creating a new user group could be one of them; so could a collaborative network of smaller, more localized groups, or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Hi Ilario, We're certainly very aware of the broader context of conflict between overlapping local groups, and the potential for individuals to misuse the user group model as a vehicle for attacking existing affiliates or furthering personal disputes among affiliate leaders or members; there have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

"Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts for these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts for any user group application or existing user group for a period of one year." And grant requests? I am not privy to the conflict details, but it seems

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Hi Kiril, You wrote above "all reasonable attempts to resolve the conflict have failed". It would be interesting to let us have the idea of these reasonable attempts. Why did you think de-recognizing these groups is the best decision? What I understood from Tele's comment is that you did nothing

[Wikimedia-l] ORES support checklist for communities

Hey, Scoring platform team aims to support more wikis but keeping track of how much support they need is not easy. This is why we built a tool that automatically gets updated and shows us an overview of the current support and specially it shows progress of labelling campaigns in different wikis

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

Why would we want to? How would it further the aims of the movement? How much would it cost? Who would run it? Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Leinonen Teemu Sent: 09 April 2018 09:46 To: Wikimedia Mailing

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Social: non-profit social networking service ?

Hi, I have been looking for social networking service that would be fair: not abusing personal data, funded by community, respecting privacy, accepting anonymity, free/libre/ open source etc. Haven’t found many. The Diaspora* Project[1] is not moving forward very fast and the Mastodon[2] is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Hi Kirill It makes sense to explain a little bit about the conflict management and the position of both sides to define why both groups have been derecognized. At the opposite this decision will give the feeling that, to attack a local Group, it will be sufficient to create another local Group

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Extremely sad news. I can't comment on the fairness but it does seem like the best decision has been taken. Regards, Isaac On Apr 8, 2018 9:52 PM, "Lucas Teles" wrote: > That’s very unexpected. I actually have been trying to talk with WMF plenty > of times and waiting

Re: [Wikimedia-l] De-recognition of Wikimedia user groups in Brazil

Hi Kirill, Could you clarify what would be a path forward from this situation? For example, would you encourage someone to set up a new application for a user group in Brazil, if they have a good proposal (and/or proven commitment) for how to manage the collaboration with the whole Brazilian