On Mon, 31 Jan 2022, 00:45 Nathan, wrote:
> I suspect there weren't that many FT employees of the WMF in 2008, if any?
>
According to Andreas's table there were 72 total employees. How many were
full time? Pass!
But his numbers make little sense, so it's hard to draw conclusions from
them.
>
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On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 6:11 PM Nathan wrote:
> I had the same reaction! Lots of old memories.
>
> I wonder, did we ever find out if the Lila-era WMF paid lots of
> ex-employees in exchange for non-disparagement?
>
> Reading through the thread, I find it very confusing how hard people
> worked t
WMF started in Florida in 2004 (no staff). First staff was probably in
2005 (Brion could confirm), with no office.
We had a handful staff in 2006 (around 5-8), with a 2-3 rooms office
(not all staff was over there). Around May/June 2007, we hired Sue for a
6 months term contract. After 6 months,
I don't have a problem with WMF staff voting, so long as they meet the
community voting guidelines; as Risker notes, many staff members are part
of the community. But staffers who do *not* otherwise meet the standard for
a community member to vote should not be voting.
Also, the exact wording of h
Hi Luis,
I happened to notice you retweet a tweet today that said "A tech is
neutral. It can’t be good or bad per se."[1] I know this perspective
differs from my own, and I think a fair number of those in the
Wikimedia movement—would you be willing to expound on your thoughts there?
– Molly White
I had the same reaction! Lots of old memories.
I wonder, did we ever find out if the Lila-era WMF paid lots of
ex-employees in exchange for non-disparagement?
Reading through the thread, I find it very confusing how hard people worked
to make sure information like that never got out.
On Sun, Jan
I suspect there weren't that many FT employees of the WMF in 2008, if any?
If I remember, WMF started that year based in Florida and moved sometime
during the year. Could be that employee expenses were housed in Bomis or
ledgered as something other than a labor expense.
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 4:3
Luis,
Gosh, that thread brings back memories, especially seeing Slimmy there.
Miss her. (I was doubly sad when I heard the other day that her husband did
not survive her by long.)
And my apologies – you did then already what I asked you for now, linking
to an earlier non-disclosure agreement used
Thank you for the report Mariana. I found it very useful to get a better
sense of Whose Knowledge in 2021 !
And congrats for the great work done in spite of last year challenges.
Looking forward to the State of the Internet's languages
Flo
Le 27/01/2022 à 17:28, mari...@whoseknowledge.org a
Le 28/01/2022 à 15:52, Camelia Boban a écrit :
Hi Florence, Isla and others,
Thank you for the announcement.
In the name of my affiliate, WikiDonne User Group, who organized the
campaign in Italian Wikiquote, I want to thank the itwikiquote
community which, for the second time, answered with
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 1:25 PM Andreas Kolbe wrote:
>
> Cost per employee 28796 39801 51133738968478186493
> 102053 106065 116726 131734 140419 149155
>
I find it hard to believe that the WMF's average cost per employee has
increased from $28,796 in 2008 to $149
Pretty much everything I know is discussed in my posts in a thread from
six-ish years ago:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EAGK7LYON3VN7LSHX27C54CEOAR63FCY/#UDZZ6UEH6EIJV4LBOYGCR7RZ3NF4CXTM
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 10:51 AM Philippe Beaudette
wrot
Honestly I don’t remember the NDA, and I don’t even remember if I signed
one. It was a long time ago.
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 11:48 AM Andreas Kolbe wrote:
> Philippe, Luis,
>
> Glad to hear that's never been done – though there is always a first time,
> and even if there is no compulsion, it'
Philippe, Luis,
Glad to hear that's never been done – though there is always a first time,
and even if there is no compulsion, it's enough for each manager to remind
their direct reports, "Oh, and remember to participate in the UCoC vote.
Really important." Or are you saying that could not happen
What Luis said. In my time at the WMF we may have pulled some boneheaded
moves (with the best of intent and luxury of after-analysis) but we never
did that. Nor have I heard of it being done to anyone.
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 11:12 AM Luis Villa wrote:
> There are a *lot *of ex-WMF employees out
There are a *lot *of ex-WMF employees out there, many of whom have left the
Foundation on very bad terms and talked about it very publicly, including
me. They tend to be very open about talking about their bad
experiences *because
their loyalty is to the community well above and beyond the Foundati
Anne, Alphos,
There is no reason to assume that staff must be "craven and ill-informed"
for them to be able to be pressured to vote a certain way. At the end of
the day, they are employees. Employees are routinely asked to do things –
and comply so as to keep their jobs.
Are you ware of anything
Anne, Alex, Željko,
Very good, Anne. Adding in the Part V, 1a numbers as additional employees,
we arrive at the table below.[1] Do you agree this is accurate? It means
the average salary cost per employee increased
– by 35% from 2013 to 2016, from *$86,493* in 2013 to *$116,726* in 2016,
– by 28%
Thank you for engaging with this topic in public and doing the translation
and sharing here (adding open-glam list).
Aside from being a nice Sunday read I think this is a super useful case
study for people working in the cultural sector and advocacy for open. Was
this published elsewhere in Englis
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