[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open letter of support for Les sans pagEs

2022-09-19 Thread Todd Allen
It is hard to determine what is being complained about, when the letter does not actually link to any of the threads it complains about. If it did that, it would be much more easily possible for someone to look into the substance of it. It states that it has been linked to "continual bad-faith argu

[Wikimedia-l] Invitation to episode 16 of WikiAfrica Hour

2022-09-19 Thread Ceslause Ogbonnaya
Dear all, I wish to invite you to episode 16 of WikiAfrica Hour, titled "*Wiki Identity*." The episode is focused on sharing details about how the various Wiki projects are identified, as regards logo/brand designs/modifications. The following guests have been invited to make the episode very en

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open letter of support for Les sans pagEs

2022-09-19 Thread Jasper Deng
Long-time lurker stepping in for a little. “Stay in your lane”—no, just no. Communities and our organizations are deeply intertwined and their relationship with each other is crucial to their success. If that means swaying hiring decisions, then so be it. I have not fully read the details either

[Wikimedia-l] Annual Report Wikimedians for offline wikis posted for your attention

2022-09-19 Thread Florence Devouard
Here : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Offline_Projects/Reports/June_2022 Thanks Florence ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikim

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open letter of support for Les sans pagEs

2022-09-19 Thread Lane Chance
Responding to LGBTQ minority communities raising legitimate, evidence based, concerns of systemic bias with "stay in your lane"? I don't think I've read anything more tone deaf. The give away is "Without having looked into the actual substance". Do the research before rushing to punch down the vo

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Call for Volunteers : Wikimania 2023 : Deadline / Final call tonight, 19 September

2022-09-19 Thread Butch Bustria
My Fellow Wikimedians, This a kind reminder that the call closes tonight at 23:59 UTC-12/AoE. We also need technical volunteers for the planning of the virtual component of Wikimania including the selection of applications/products to use. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2023 Kind re

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback!

2022-09-19 Thread Ramzy Muliawan
Pete, Terima kasih atas pandangan Anda yang menarik. Peran Yayasan Wikimedia dalam jagat semesta wiki selalu menjadi suatu topik perbincangan yang menarik, dan tentu saja relevan dengan upaya yang sedang berlangsung untuk merumuskan peran dan tanggungjawab pemegang-pemegang kepentingan yang ada da

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback!

2022-09-19 Thread Gnangarra
Pete Good leadership will arise without intervention from the WMF, Affiliates, and the many working groups. The advantage to the community as a whole is that with WMF involvement the WMF has a greater knowledge of the people in the community that can fulfill positions currently going to external

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Leadership Development Working Group is ready for community feedback!

2022-09-19 Thread Pete Forsyth
Andreas and Ramzy, Thank you for sharing these perspectives. I have a view that doesn't quite align with either of yours, and I am interested in what you think. It seems to me that leadership is a quality that has always been important, if poorly defined, in the Wikipedia project. New users ofte

[Wikimedia-l] Response to Yair Rand's proposal (Was: Re: Open letter of support for Les sans pagEs)

2022-09-19 Thread Željko Blaće
Dear Yair Rand (saying this honestly not as a form), with all respect to your much engaged and always informative contributions on many topics (from which I learned so much), I would have to respond this time with some extra positions you and others might want to consider as inline comments and obs