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>Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 13:02:30 +0100
>From: Fæ <fae...@gmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey
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>On 16 July 2014 12:39, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com> wrote:
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>> I asked this researcher to discontinue the survey pending a check on the
>> impact of it on the Wikipedia community. I said this because I feel they
>> are out of compliance with even the soft suggestions in research that are
>> available, and they know this.
>
>Good point. If anyone wanted to research deletion discussion patterns
>and outcomes on the English Wikipedia or other projects, I could knock
>out a nice analysis using a little passive but intelligent bot work
>depending on their requirements. I'm easy to find.
>
>I'm pretty sure this would be a lot cheaper in volunteer time or
>research time than creating surveys to answer very similar questions,
>particularly if the resulting report were freely published so that
>volunteers could give their "subjective value responses" to that
>instead.
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>Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 15:43:48 +0300
>From: "Amir E. Aharoni" <amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>
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>Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] AFD survey
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>Good points, Lane. Such things were possibly discussed before, but it's the
>first time that I see it it spelled out like this.
>
>This approach should be advertised a bit somehow, so that the researchers
>know how to do it ethically and for everybody's benefit, and so that the
>experienced Wikipedians would know not to start answering such surveys.
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>Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
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>‪“We're living in pieces,
>I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
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>2014-07-16 14:39 GMT+03:00 Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com>:
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>> Hello,
>>
>> I feel that this is an unethical research project and I have told the
>> researcher so. We exchanged several emails and were unable to understand
>> each other. I asked them to please have their university ethics board
>> contact me.
>>
>> I asked the researcher about RCOM and other things. This person said they
>> posted to RCOM, but "the Meta page states that submissions should receive
>> responses within 1-2 weeks, and yet our messages went unanswered. We have
>> institutional ethics approval, but that doesn't last indefinitely, and so
>> after receiving no response we opted to go ahead."
>>
>> I am not going to share more than
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