Re: [Wikimedia-l] The tragedy of Commons

2014-07-03 Thread Peter Gervai
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Peter Southwood peter.southw...@telkomsa.net wrote: Wonderful, I have high expectations of your ability and willingness to solve these problems, Please notify us of your success so we can celebrate. This was neither constructive nor civilised. It shows that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid editing v. paid advocacy (editing)

2014-01-10 Thread Peter Gervai
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de wrote: Wikipedia articles. So they pay 10.000 Dollar to Bryce DeWitt (I know, he is dead, I just don't want to name any living people) to write about field theory, or John Wheeler to write about general relativity, and so on and so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Basic income Wikimedians

2014-01-09 Thread Peter Gervai
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Fajro fai...@gmail.com wrote: I also support the BI idea but this is too off-topic. Yes, please, people. We have raised awareness just fine, let's not discuss it here. thanks, Peter ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF employee writing articles for $300

2014-01-06 Thread Peter Gervai
I apologise for the break and please go on with the shit throwing contest but I guess there is nothing wrong with paid editing if it follows the policies and guidelines of Wikipedia. Experienced editors write better articles, people with lots of experience in their favourite field write better

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-12 Thread Peter Gervai
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 12/12/13 02:54, Nathan wrote: Bitcoin isn't native currency for anyone, and anyone who wishes to make a Bitcoin donation could certainly do so using a more standard currency. I would think that if anonymity is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-12 Thread Peter Gervai
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: naturally appreciates in value, like playing the stock market or buying gold. Avoiding lots of risky investments is something our very competent I do not plan to get into a perpetual debate just wanted to point

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Rules of engagement for companies in Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish?

2013-10-22 Thread Peter Gervai
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:52 AM, David Richfield davidrichfi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not in communications at all: I'm in RD, but our Corporate Communications team really does want to act in good faith, which is Yeah, usually when someone wants to play nicely ask asks openly people start to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Please, let's save the Wikipedia - from itself

2013-09-05 Thread Peter Gervai
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Lars Gardenius lars.garden...@yahoo.de wrote: No I don't think it is being addressed. Not in a serious way. You mean it's not _solved_. Indeed. At least one problem was mentioned in the thread which is that the (honest, knowledgeable) newbies have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Gervai
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:23 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Their orders would be classified; disclosure of them would be a crime. Not a problem for us, but a big problem for staff on the ground in China. Indeed, I believe it may even be outright life threatening to have strong

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia and the politics of encryption

2013-09-02 Thread Peter Gervai
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Matthew Flaschen matthew.flasc...@gatech.edu wrote: But as far as I know, the U.S. government has never blocked the general public from accessing a Wikipedia article, nor have they sent a takedown that was based on ideology/social harmony/etc. Instead they use

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The failure of Google, looking for open source alternatives

2013-08-26 Thread Peter Gervai
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/25 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: 2013/8/25 Romaine Wiki romaine_w...@yahoo.com: Unfortunately I couldn't find any layer for Wikipedia on http://openstreetmap.org http://osm.org/ is an example renderer.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The failure of Google, looking for open source alternatives

2013-08-25 Thread Peter Gervai
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: Bear in mind that OSM is a community such as we are, with its own habits and ideas. As I happen to be one of the more active ones in Hungary. :-) The idea of OSM is to have everything in one databse Nope. You will

Re: [Wikimedia-l] French intelligency agency forces removal of a Wikipedia article

2013-04-07 Thread Peter Gervai
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:32 AM, Romaine Wiki romaine_w...@yahoo.com wrote: An intelligence agency that apparently hasn't done enough intelligence to know that doing such action would cause the opposite Possibly there will be a rise in the number of janitors against the number of intelligence

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Gadgets

2013-04-07 Thread Peter Gervai
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Martin Rulsch martin.rul...@wikimedia.de wrote: Free give-aways are okay. But a shop where Wiki* stuff can be sold, might be a problem. Possibly out of the tread but let me comment that anyone anytime could sell anything from Wikipedia until s/he follows the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Toolserver-l] [TS logo] Fwd: Free as in Wikimedia Foundation

2013-03-20 Thread Peter Gervai
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl wrote: well put. I think that clearly WMF legal department assumed that having the trademark registered is such a good idea that it does not require a dialogue with the community, My _general_ problem, however, that I have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-09 Thread Peter Gervai
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: Next time someone balks at my day rate, I'm just going to say I need a new Ferrari and twenty new Hugo Boss suits a year or you'll feel the force of a discrimination case at the employment tribunal. And I'll remind you to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] fiction: WMF policy of paying less than market

2013-03-08 Thread Peter Gervai
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote: Though I do feel that the WMF salary is discriminating against my right to fly first class everywhere. My champagne glass won't refill itself, you know! Do you accept donations? g

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Peter Gervai
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation's support of OTRS

2013-02-21 Thread Peter Gervai
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Gervai, 21/02/2013 11:04: I can help supporting OTRS, and Wikimedia Hungary can officially support it as well. I do not intend to look for alternatives, partly because I'm quite happy with OTRS, partly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia redefined -- typography and UX and such

2012-08-08 Thread Peter Gervai
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipe...@zog.org wrote: Well, it's certainly a possible starting point for discussion: http://www.wikipediaredefined.com/ Yes, interesting. I asked them about whether they intend to keep it teling us instead of discussing it (no email list but