Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

Tilman Bayer, 08/04/2012 12:02 AM: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Tilman Bayer, 29/07/2012 18:28: Regarding the "normal levels", I suppose you haven't yet had a chance to look at http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/active_editors ? Yes and it shows that there

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On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Of course, here the term "high quality" does not necessarily mean, > say, featured content (e.g. on the English Wikipedia, featured > articles currently make up less than 0.1% of the total articles), but > instead refers to comparisons with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

> > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:02:51 -0700 > From: Tilman Bayer > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual > Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation > Message-ID: > e6szp2021wqt845v

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On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:07 PM, aude wrote: > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Tilman Bayer > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at > > > > > > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FO

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On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Tilman Bayer, 29/07/2012 18:28: > >> Regarding the "normal levels", I suppose you haven't yet had a chance >> to look at http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/active_editors ? > > > Yes and it shows that there's still an increase over

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Risker wrote: > I'm more curious about where the 9.9 million in revenue will come from in > Q4, to be honest. (P.64 of the plan) Absent that, I'm not seeing how all > those new positions (particularly the 30 in Engineering) will be paid for. > Note that this ques

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Hi, folks. I've also tried to address the (truly confusing) use of the word "grants" across the plan. See here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget#Wikimedia_Grants_budget Cheers, Asaf On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Sue Gardner wrote: > On 1 August 2012 09:47, Thomas Dal

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On 1 August 2012 09:47, Thomas Dalton wrote: > On 1 August 2012 17:36, Sue Gardner wrote: >> I checked the page a couple of days ago and didn't see any questions: maybe >> I was looking at the wrong page? > > The questions are on the page SJ suggested using: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tal

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On 1 August 2012 17:36, Sue Gardner wrote: > I checked the page a couple of days ago and didn't see any questions: maybe > I was looking at the wrong page? The questions are on the page SJ suggested using: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget

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I checked the page a couple of days ago and didn't see any questions: maybe I was looking at the wrong page? I'll ask Tilman via this mail to help coordinate getting answers from the appropriate people. Separately/additionally: I thought the Signpost coverage was pretty good. It wasn't extensive,

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On 29 July 2012 07:11, Samuel Klein wrote: > Let's use the page we used to use to discuss plans and budgets: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget I thought this was implicit, but apparently not: can someone from the WMF please answer the questions that are on that page? ___

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Samuel Klein wrote: >> I know a few people would like to see the talk namespaces of >> wikimediafoundation.org opened up to general discussion, but that's a bit >> tricky with raw HTML being allowed there. > > This shouldn't be a blocker. Disallow raw HTML on talk pages? > Simply restrict editing

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On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > > >> Simply restrict editing to a higher 'autoconfirmed' standard? > >> > >> I would like to see your ideas on how to do this; it seems like a good > >> idea. > >> > >> SJ > > > > Well, the biggest blocker would be that the WMF wiki is pri

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

Tilman Bayer, 29/07/2012 18:28: Regarding the "normal levels", I suppose you haven't yet had a chance to look at http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/active_editors ? Yes and it shows that there's still an increase over the pre-WLM situation. Actually I was reading

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On Jul 30, 2012 7:18 AM, "Tilman Bayer" wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > > On 7/28/12 5:58 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at > >> > >> > >> https://wikimediafoundation

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On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Florence Devouard wrote: > On 7/28/12 5:58 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at >> >> >> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.p

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On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Florence Devouard, 29/07/2012 13:37: > >> But seriously... I would feel fine with us trying to claim that the GEP >> is the largest system effort to INCREASE the number of articles. It is >> probably true. >> >> But we all know that th

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On 29 July 2012 10:07, Risker wrote: > Well, despite my best efforts, the discussion has been redirected back to < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget#2012-13> > > In other words, it is now on the bottom of a discussion page that has not > been touched in 3 years simply becaus

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On 29 July 2012 07:11, Samuel Klein wrote: > Let's use the page we used to use to discuss plans and budgets: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget Ok. I've posted a couple of questions there for the WMF to answer regarding the GAC and FDC. ___

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On 29 July 2012 15:17, wrote: > It seems to me despite the WMF's stated confidence, that the FDC allocating > money to WMF for the GAC is somewhat questionable. Given that the WMF has > failed, so far, to show a capacity for properly administering the existing > grants by providing a timely re

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On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:58 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Hi all, > > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf > > accompanied by a Q&A: > > https://wikimediafounda

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Florence Devouard, 29/07/2012 13:37: But seriously... I would feel fine with us trying to claim that the GEP is the largest system effort to INCREASE the number of articles. It is probably true. But we all know that the result is... so and so. Possibly good content, but also lot's of crap being

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On 7/28/12 5:58 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote: Hi all, the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf accompanied by a Q&A: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2012-2013_Annu

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Well, despite my best efforts, the discussion has been redirected back to < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget#2012-13> In other words, it is now on the bottom of a discussion page that has not been touched in 3 years simply because it says something about the WMF budget.

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On 29 July 2012 03:32, Risker wrote: > > > On 29 July 2012 03:16, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > >> Keegan Peterzell, 29/07/2012 08:29: >> >> For editing, that is. I have what I presume to be my obituary on the >>> wiki: >>> http://wikimediafoundation.**org/wiki/User:Kpeterzell

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On 29 July 2012 03:16, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > Keegan Peterzell, 29/07/2012 08:29: > > For editing, that is. I have what I presume to be my obituary on the >> wiki: >> http://wikimediafoundation.**org/wiki/User:Kpeterzell >> > > The s

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Keegan Peterzell, 29/07/2012 08:29: For editing, that is. I have what I presume to be my obituary on the wiki: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/User:Kpeterzell The situation of WMFwiki is indeed frustrating, but could we avoid OT in this thread? Unless it's a subtle strategy to make the t

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On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Keegan Peterzell wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: >> >> I know a few people would like to see the talk namespaces of >> > wikimediafoundation.org opened up to general discussion, but that's a >> bit >> > tricky with raw HTML being

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > > I know a few people would like to see the talk namespaces of > > wikimediafoundation.org opened up to general discussion, but that's a > bit > > tricky with raw HTML being allowed there. > > > This shouldn't be a blocker. Disallow raw HTML

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Thomas Dalton wrote: > On Jul 29, 2012 7:01 AM, "MZMcBride" wrote: >> Risker wrote: >>> This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a >>> community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being >>> discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the co

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On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 2:00 AM, MZMcBride wrote: > Risker wrote: > > This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a > > community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being > > discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community > > does

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On Jul 29, 2012 7:01 AM, "MZMcBride" wrote: > > Risker wrote: > > This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a > > community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being > > discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community > > does not s

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Risker wrote: > This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a > community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being > discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community > does not subscribe. Because you haven't created such a place yet.

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This is a very good point, Thomas. Why exactly is there no place on a community wiki where this is being discussed? Instead it is being discussed on a mailing list to which the vast majority of the community does not subscribe. Risker/Anne On 28 July 2012 10:59, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Thank

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Actually, on looking a bit more closely, it appears that the Engineering core positions include those that are intended to support non-core activities. That doesn't really add up; they should also be non-core. I also note that a lot of the activities in the strategic plan are considered non-core.

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On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > > It's not a very large increase on last year. It's a little tricky to make > sure you are comparing like with like given the new way of treating chapter > revenues and spending, but I think the right number to compare with is > $39.2m. A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Hi all, > > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at > > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf > > accompanied by a Q&A: > > > https://wikimediafou

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On Jul 29, 2012 3:45 AM, "Risker" wrote: > > I'm more curious about where the 9.9 million in revenue will come from in > Q4, to be honest. (P.64 of the plan) The plan does seem to be missing the details on revenue... Isn't there normally a slide breaking down revenue into fundraiser, grants, maj

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I'm more curious about where the 9.9 million in revenue will come from in Q4, to be honest. (P.64 of the plan) Absent that, I'm not seeing how all those new positions (particularly the 30 in Engineering) will be paid for. Risker/Anne On 28 July 2012 22:32, Béria Lima wrote: > 46 millions?? Tha

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On Jul 29, 2012 3:33 AM, "Béria Lima" wrote: > > 46 millions?? That is a joke right? Please someone tell me that this is a > joke. It's not a very large increase on last year. It's a little tricky to make sure you are comparing like with like given the new way of treating chapter revenues and spe

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46 millions?? That is a joke right? Please someone tell me that this is a joke. _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. * On

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On 28 July 2012 04:58, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Hi all, > > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf > > accompanied by a Q&A: > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wik

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Thank you for publishing this. Where is the best place to discuss this plan? On 28 July 2012 04:58, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Hi all, > > the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] 2012-13 Annual Plan of the Wikimedia Foundation

Hi all, the Wikimedia Foundation's 2012-13 Annual Plan has just been published at https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:2012-13_Wikimedia_Foundation_Plan_FINAL_FOR_WEBSITE.pdf accompanied by a Q&A: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/2012-2013_Annual_Plan_Questions_and_Answers The plan wa