Re: [Wikimedia-l] Attention needed for Croatian Wikipedia issue

2013-11-04 Thread Ilario Valdelli
I think that the problem is not present only in hr.wikipedia but it's present in several projects and mainly in en.wikipedia and in fr.wikipedia. I know this problem and I faced it directly several years ago, so it's an old problem, and I have seen several people leaving Wikipedia projects for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Attention needed for Croatian Wikipedia issue

2013-11-03 Thread Dalibor Bosits
Hello there, I can not tell you right now what kind of assistance is needed as I do not know what actions are available in the first place. Similarly, I do not know who is in charge in such extreme situations. Currently the discussion on the ongoing issues has mostly moved to the meta pages[1].

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Attention needed for Croatian Wikipedia issue

2013-10-29 Thread Tony Souter
This is a sadly common pattern among smaller WMF sites: a single editor or a group of self-supporting editors gains a foothold in the power structure and abuses the trust we put in admins. Just as in real life, this is typically accompanied by a xenophobic push, and a snowballing effect that

[Wikimedia-l] Attention needed for Croatian Wikipedia issue

2013-10-28 Thread Dalibor Bosits
Dear fellow Wikipedia and Wikimedia contributors and users, The issue at hand that has forced me to compose this address are the pressing circumstances surrounding the Croatian language branch of Wikipedia, which has become notoriously well known in the broader Wikipedia community in recent

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Attention needed for Croatian Wikipedia issue

2013-10-28 Thread Anders Wennersten
It has been very sad learning of the problem you have had and to follow the discussion you have had on meta. I think, though, that you in this extremely tough situation has handled it very competently and in the tradition of the wikimedia culture. As I understand it, you have now also

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Attention needed for Croatian Wikipedia issue

2013-10-28 Thread Nathan
Hi Dalibor, Could you describe what type of aid you are looking for, and how you think it fits with the overall governing ethos of Wikimedia projects? (For example, if you ask for WMF staff to intervene, would you argue that the WMF can and should intervene in project disputes when one side makes