Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-10 Thread Michael Peel
On 10 May 2014, at 19:43, Balázs Viczián wrote: >> >> >> You may also visit an overview of the financial information presented in >> these proposals, which includes information for all proposals in this >> round: >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Finan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-10 Thread Balázs Viczián
> > > You may also visit an overview of the financial information presented in > these proposals, which includes information for all proposals in this > round: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/Financial_overview > > This page is empty. Vince

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Erlend, I agree with you that chapter visits are a good idea and we should do more systematically in this area. We are aware that the smaller chapters cannot possibly have the capacity to prepare the same kind of proposals as large chapters, and we mainly make comparisons between organizations

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-10 Thread Erlend Bjørtvedt
Thanks for your answer dariusz! Still, I think there are still 3 critical issues: It requires that chapters are really able to express, in a foreign language, advanced phenomena and characteristics of their work. I have seen grant applications that prove the opposite, The only thing I Ask for, i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi Erlend, there is a systematic schedule of site visits by WMF, but obviously it cannot be done for each chapter every year. From my grantmaking experience with several major foundations, I have to say that doing assessments basing on desktop materials is typical. In fact, the professional standa

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-09 Thread Erlend Bjørtvedt
As seen from distance in Paris, it seems like the assessment prosess is a mix of well-reasoned, prepared, and coincidential. In our case, the assessment is based on clever desk-top metrics, but not on any real knowledge of the local programs or their actual implementation. Foundation would have to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-09 Thread Risker
Thank you for your correction, Kasia - it now reads "In order to avoid a potential bias assessing their own proposal, FDC have asked Wikimedia Deutschland (WMDE) to do the staff assessment of the WMF's proposal." [1] If I may suggest, since the FDC didn't submit the proposal that was assessed (the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-09 Thread Kasia Odrozek
Hi Risker, It was indeed an unintentional mistake and thank you for pointing it out. I have corrected it in the assessment. Best, Kasia 2014-05-09 17:00 GMT+02:00 Risker : > Actually, Dariusz, if the FDC (which is not WMF/FDC staff) made the > request, then the sentence is incorrect. As it is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-09 Thread Risker
Actually, Dariusz, if the FDC (which is not WMF/FDC staff) made the request, then the sentence is incorrect. As it is currently written, it states that WMF/ FDC staff contacted WMDE directly made the request, and implies that the FDC itself had no role in this decision. The WMF/FDC staff have mad

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-09 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi, let me clarify - asking WMDE was an independent decision of the FDC, and not of the FDC staff. The FDC reached out to WMDE regarding this request, and the FDC staff has assisted us since then. The sentence is thus true, although may sound misleading. best, dj "pundit" On Fri, May 9, 2014 a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-09 Thread Risker
Thank you Winifred. These appear to be very good, and I largely agree with the assessment. I know that the WMF FDC staff did not review the WMF submission; it was partially reviewed by WMDE. In the first sentence of the introduction to their report they say "In order to avoid a potential bias as

[Wikimedia-l] FDC staff proposal assessments for 2013-2014 Round 2 are posted

2014-05-08 Thread FDC Support Team
Greetings, all: Staff proposal assessments have been posted on Meta for three proposals that were submitted in 2013-2014 Round 2. At the FDC's request, FDC staff have not published an assessment for the WMF proposal; however, an assessment of the WMF proposal has been published by WMDE. The propo