Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-15 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 07/14/2014 01:25 PM, Fæ wrote: Yes, some people may get scholarships to travel to Wikimania or other conferences, however my understanding is that this would be limited to those presenting. Scholarships are also made available to attendees, specifically to allow those who would not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-15 Thread Pine W
Hi all, OK, I've been reading this plus the emails that I got off-list. It seems that there are a lot of diverse ideas and priorities, and probably the best way to gather and prioritize them is through a strategic planning process somewhat like what WMF and the community did in the last time

[Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Pine W
Hi community members, I'm wondering how many people might be interested in having an IRC meeting regarding the community's relationship to WMF and potentially developing our own strategic plan that would be independent of WMF. In the past few days I've heard some defense of WMF but mainly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Richard Ames
On 14/07/14 17:25, Pine W wrote: Hi community members, snip Topics of possible discussion regarding our relationship with WMF: 1. Strategic options, such as finding alternative organizations to WMF for hosting Wikimedia sites or creating a new hosting organization that is aligned with

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Anders Wennersten
I am interested in community strategy but have very different topics in mind *how should we handle the 50-100 projects that today in practice are dead. They are open for anyone (besides vandals that already infest these) to hi-jack *how should we handle the 5-10 projects that are already

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Jane Darnell
I am interested in community strategy to tackle such things as 1) exposing missing, confusing, or outdated local policies by using policy comparisons cross-wiki 2) handling multi-language issues such as highlighting article-for-deletion discussions for each language in which the article exists,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Balázs Viczián
Bear in mind WikiPedia =/= WikiMedia. Imo all of the below and about 70-80% of the topics previously brough up in this thread can be solved/actioned/discussed/amended/etc by the community solely through Village Pump (or other relevant forums) without a single person involved (ever) from WMF or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread
On 14/07/2014, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Balazs, It's interesting that you feel that way, because I disagree entirely. Out of curiosity, have you ever met another Wikipedian in real life, and do you feel that meet-ups are beneficial to the movement? Jane Jane, Without a single

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Balázs Viczián, 14/07/2014 13:53: Imo all of the below and about 70-80% of the topics previously brough up in this thread can be solved/actioned/discussed/amended/etc by the community So you're confirming that they're on topic for the proposal :) which was «Perhaps it's time that we in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Nathan
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi community members, I'm wondering how many people might be interested in having an IRC meeting regarding the community's relationship to WMF and potentially developing our own strategic plan that would be independent of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Gryllida
Pine, We need more of - decentralized development so that people can write new gadgets and extensions easier like firefox jetpack for example.. Each project needs its own editing and feedback tools that it would happily design on wiki in collaborative fashion - means to encourage more content

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Keating
I expect this would be an interesting meeting if people are interested in participating, and I hope that we would brainstorm some ideas about how we want to move forward on all of these questions and others if we have time. Hi Pine, I think it would be much more productive to think about

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Martijn Hoekstra
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi community members, I'm wondering how many people might be interested in having an IRC meeting regarding the community's relationship to WMF and potentially developing our own strategic plan that would be independent of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Jane Darnell
Well maybe all of you are independently wealthy, have laptop and and will travel, but as I see it, for the rest of us, without travel budget facilitated by WMF and chapters, I don't see how we can achieve meetups to do any brainstorming at all. And poring over lists of ideas tucked away in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread Bohdan Melnychuk
I'm too lazy to read all above and below but I think we might try. Wikicommunities blackouted wikis protest to some political laws in some countries which is beyond not-a-soapbox pillar but they can't stand WMF's pressure. Should be vice versa IMHO. --Base 14.07.2014 10:25, Pine W

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Interest in a community strategic planning meeting?

2014-07-14 Thread
On 14/07/2014, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Well maybe all of you are independently wealthy, have laptop and and will travel, but as I see it, for the rest of us, without travel budget facilitated by WMF and chapters, I don't see how we can achieve meetups to do any brainstorming at