Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the capability to delete usernames compatible with the CCBYSA license?

2013-10-23 Thread Delirium
On 10/23/13 11:10 AM, Andre Engels wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Strainu wrote: Same argument in different wording: None of the creativity that goes into the vandalizing from version A to version B is present in version C. Thus, version C does not fall under the copyright of the va

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the capability to delete usernames compatible with the CCBYSA license?

2013-10-23 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Andre Engels, 23/10/2013 11:10: On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Strainu wrote: If we go this way, then none of the authors who added legitimate content in the past but had it deleted later should be credited. We would need a tool like "git blame" [1] to generate the author list. Not neces

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the capability to delete usernames compatible with the CCBYSA license?

2013-10-23 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Strainu wrote: > > Same argument in > > different wording: None of the creativity that goes into the vandalizing > > from version A to version B is present in version C. Thus, version C does > > not fall under the copyright of the vandal. Which means that there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the capability to delete usernames compatible with the CCBYSA license?

2013-10-23 Thread Strainu
2013/10/23 Marco Chiesa : > Actually, following the same philosophy, one should wonder whether the > person reverting from version B to version C should be kept in the > contributor's list. At the end of the day, version C is an exact copy of > version A (i.e. no creative input of editor C), and ve

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the capability to delete usernames compatible with the CCBYSA license?

2013-10-23 Thread Andre Engels
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Strainu wrote: > Hi, > > Someone brought up an interesting issue: is it moral for the vandals > to be credited as contributors to articles (especially when exporting > the article as pdf)? After experimenting a little, it turns out that > deleting the usernames f

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the capability to delete usernames compatible with the CCBYSA license?

2013-10-23 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Strainu wrote: > > While morality is a subjective matter, a more interesting question is: > is this behavior compatible with the CCBYSA license? Say we have > version A of a text, vandalised in version B and reverted in revision > C. Then version C is a work deri

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the capability to delete usernames compatible with the CCBYSA license?

2013-10-23 Thread Ilya Korniyko
Answer to the first question is very simple - C is derived from A, not vandalized B revision. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Strainu wrote: > Hi, > > Someone brought up an interesting issue: is it moral for the vandals > to be credited as contributors to articles (especially when exporting >

[Wikimedia-l] Is the capability to delete usernames compatible with the CCBYSA license?

2013-10-23 Thread Strainu
Hi, Someone brought up an interesting issue: is it moral for the vandals to be credited as contributors to articles (especially when exporting the article as pdf)? After experimenting a little, it turns out that deleting the usernames from the history removes them from the contributor list. While