[Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread Theo10011
Hi I would like to bring up an issue with office actions that was brought up elsewhere. There has been an issue on commons with User:Saibo tagging images from WMF staff. He disagreed with a particular office action taken by WMF staff. He gives an explanation with relevant diffs here[1]. The issue

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread Theo10011
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:38 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: So, can you say what it is about this that made you bring it up now, in July? I heard about this issue fairly recently, on a private list. So, you probably already know more than I do. I really don't care about the specifics of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread Deryck Chan
On 3 July 2012 19:08, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I love it when people send e-mails to the public list, and purposefully refrain from actually discussing the actual events at issue. You have to read 3/4ths of the e-mail to get an idea that it's about someone being blocked, but you still

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread Steven Walling
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Theo10011 de10...@gmail.com wrote: Office actions have historically been used to blank or delete pages, the current listed policy on Meta and commons[3][4] make no mention of Global bans or blocking a user locally, or even globally. I have not known for office

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread Nathan
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@wikimedia.hk wrote: On 3 July 2012 19:08, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I love it when people send e-mails to the public list, and purposefully refrain from actually discussing the actual events at issue. You have to read 3/4ths of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread BĂ©ria Lima
Phillipe, a global ban, even by the policy proposed, requires more than 2 communities agreeing that the ban is necessary, as far as I know, even if we count the office staff as one community that is only one. At least the guy know why he was blocked? And what is the guarantee we have that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread Philippe Beaudette
No, that was clumsy wording. I did not mean that it could have been used in THIS instance; I meant that in future instances, I can see circumstances where it could be used. ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread Theo10011
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.orgwrote: To the best of my knowledge, no. And that's precisely why we would like a global ban policy implemented. We would prefer an established, community-monitored process that we can turn to when at all possible (and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread Richard Symonds
is someone's off-wiki opinion or behavior or even criminal past, grounds for a block? In my opinion, yes. I have carried out many blocks (and bans) based partly on the off-wiki behaviour of an editor. It's really only necessary in very serious cases involving violence, stalking, child

Re: [Wikimedia-l] OFFICE actions and WMF image tagging

2012-07-03 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 03/07/2012 3:23 PM, Theo10011 wrote: I would ask about a hypothetical, is someone's off-wiki opinion or behavior or even criminal past, grounds for a block? It may well be. Both for our protection and that of other editors. There are cases of real, dangerous persons using Wikipedia to