Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

Ccing Sophie, from Wikimedia Sweeden, whom I had the pleasure to talk today and learned from their Education Program. We can still learn a lot. http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/02/14/wikipedia-education-program-sweden/ Context: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-March/thread.html

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 2:26 PM, ENWP Pine wrote: > After re-reading my email to Jessie and looking again at some of the > recent WMF Monthly Reports, I think I may be making some assumptions about > how Programs and Evaluations works that may be incorrect. Jessie, would you > be willing to have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

Hi Asaf, WSC made several points here that address your question and that are very similar to my own views. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-March/124824.html After re-reading my email to Jessie and looking again at some of the recent WMF Monthly Reports, I think I may be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

On 29 March 2013 19:22, Balázs Viczián wrote: > I'd rather be interested in how do you measure _success_ (this question is > for everybody) > By hard outcomes measured against the original project goals. Turning that around - projects should not be funded without defined measurable goals, and g

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I'd rather be interested in how do you measure _success_ (this question is for everybody) Balazs 2013/3/29 Everton Zanella Alvarenga > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:30 PM, ENWP Pine > wrote: > > > May I ask, if you're working on things like the Learning Portal, what > > are Frank and other people

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On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:30 PM, ENWP Pine wrote: > May I ask, if you're working on things like the Learning Portal, what > are Frank and other people within the programs and evaluations > group working on? I'm interested in seeing a list of the current > initiatives, what their goals are, when t

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On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:30 AM, ENWP Pine wrote: > > In the meantime, I hope that you add to your list of "all places receiving > movement funding resources" any major projects within WMF. I think the > situation with AFT5 repeating some errors from IEP which were well > documented by a consult

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

Hi Jessie, Thanks for following up. I think Gayle will be responding to this thread also, but she is a little busy right now as I think we can all understand. In the meantime, I hope that you add to your list of "all places receiving movement funding resources" any major projects within WMF

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Hey all - I have been really curious about this thread, and thanks to all of you for the thoughts and participation. I am in full agreement that we need to have better movement-wide shared lessons and accountability: I think this should include most particularly all places receiving movement fundi

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Hi WSC, I agree with you on several points, although I think I am more supportive of holding project supervisors accountable for problems. I hope that WMF is paying attention to this conversation. I'll be very interested in hearing what Gayle has to say. After hearing from Gayle, I may have so

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

> Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:57:44 -0300 > From: Everton Zanella Alvarenga > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Cc: "gyo...@wikimedia.org" , Nitika Tandon > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (p

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Hello everyone, I've read the log of this conversation; is there any success ratio set already? If not, might be good to take the ratio of how many new registrations are becoming regular contributors. (if 1/100 new registrations, then 1%) The general online marketing success ratio is somewhere a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

Le 2013-03-24 19:57, Everton Zanella Alvarenga a écrit : "The main difference between science and stage magic is that in science you make your mistakes in public. You show them off, so that everybody can learn from them--not just yourself. This way, you get the benefit of everybody else's exper

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

point. Taking calculated risks is much different from being negligent. Some risks work and some don't, and that can be OK in some contexts. Pine From: "Peter Southwood" To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

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Make interesting mistakes. - Original Message - From: "Everton Zanella Alvarenga" To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" Cc: ; "Nitika Tandon" Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation) Hi, Pine.

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Tom, Thanks for the good email. It's important to learn from mistakes, but admitting mistakes does not absolve someone from accountability. When people are being paid to do something right or to achieve a certain outcome, and that doesn't happen or it happens late, it's sometimes a very good

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Hi, Pine. On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 3:41 PM, ENWP Pine wrote: > Tom, I'm glad that you studied the IEP. I did this in the beginning mainly through Jessie Wild's support, who always kept articulating the SF staff for improve the education group learnings, and Nitika Tandon, now at CIS - a pity I b

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Tom, I'm glad that you studied the IEP. Gayle, I would be interested in hearing about the topics that you're covering during your training sessions for WMF supervisors, especially whether you make sure that every supervisor has had an opportunity to learn about the experience of IEP. My impress

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

On 23/03/13 21:49, Everton Zanella Alvarenga wrote: The India Education Program was really useful for my learnings before I started coordinating the education program in Brazil. Without them, I could have made similar mistakes. And this is one really important thing about the nature of Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

The India Education Program was really useful for my learnings before I started coordinating the education program in Brazil. Without them, I could have made similar mistakes. And this is one really important thing about the nature of Wikimedia projects, they are not predictable as a simple physics

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I agree that the general ideas about IEP and AFT5 were worth considering, but I get the impression that there were preventable shortcomings in their designs and planning, and it bothers me a lot that I think I see *similar* flaws in the two programs. I get the impression that lessons from the IEP

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at we can get consensus for. WSC Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:19:41 +0100 > From: "Federico Leva (Nemo)" > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Cc: ENWP Pine > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation) > Message-ID: <514b250d.804

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ENWP Pine, 21/03/2013 05:48: I'd also suggest that people read the report about projects that encountered significant problems at WMF, particularly the IEP, I suppose the past tense here means that should be tagged {{historical}} rather than {{dra

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I hope the Grants Retrospective comes up as one possible model for evaluation. Its output had some useful features and side effects. On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:48 AM, ENWP Pine wrote: > >> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:31:57 -0700 >> From: Frank Schulenburg >> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Office hour inside out (program evaluation)

> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:31:57 -0700 > From: Frank Schulenburg > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Tomorrow: Office hour inside out (program > evaluation) > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi folks, > > Tomorrow at 17:00 UTC