>
> Which of your arguments here depend on the result to be made?
- The celebration of numbers, with no consideration or even evaluation
of arguments
- the distribution of votes
- the small turn out
- the failure of securepoll
- even the lack of participation in process thats
>Unfortunately you cant talk about the outcome of a result prior to it
taking place.
Which of your arguments here depend on the result to be made?
Moving goalposts after a vote has been taken seems very problematic, and
may be at the heart of many of the issues we have with participation in
From the empirical, anecdotal evidence I have, low turnout (could be
worst, but still not great) at my homewiki, the Wikipedia in
Portuguese, was mostly due to lack of interest, part of it eventually
caused by the belief that the way it was designed, the impact on the UCOC
on the wiki would be
Just to follow up on this from Risker, I filed a task on the home wiki
issue: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T329922
best,
Joe
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Lead Trust and Safety Specialist
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 13:27, Risker wrote:
> Just noting in passing that the
Unfortunately you cant talk about the outcome of a result prior to it
taking place.
On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 at 07:55, Chico Venancio
wrote:
> I'm a bit disappointed that we're discussing the results of a vote after
> it was taken, these things have to be voiced and discussed before the
> voting
I'm a bit disappointed that we're discussing the results of a vote after it
was taken, these things have to be voiced and discussed before the voting
begins, not after a result you may disagree with has been tallied.
Chico Venancio
Em qui., 16 de fev. de 2023 às 19:51, Joe Sutherland <
Hi there,
There are a few things I do wonder about, which are not clear from the
> conversation/statistics:
> - is the approval rating significantly different among voters from smaller
> projects than in larger projects? I don't know if the voting infrastructure
> even allows for such a
I agree that these are valid concerns, as is the point that we should
consider how the 'homewiki' (or whatever demographic you choose to follow)
distribution across those votes impacts the outcome. I think there will be
general agreement that more participation would be great (although I feel
that
Hi.
I am Iran Ali kia...
Thank you for your cooperation.
در تاریخ پنجشنبه ۱۶ فوریهٔ ۲۰۲۳، ۷:۲۵ نوشت:
> مرحبًا، لست معترضًا على النتائج أو السياسة، بل العكس هو أمر جيد من الناحية
> التنظيمية ومكافحة التحرش والإساءة لكن لدي بعض الملاحظات حول العملية وليس
> على المحتوى:
> * نسبة المشاركة تعد
Thank you Adel for adding up very valuable input and thoughts on my initial
concern. You explained the turnout, participation and the evaluation issues of
such an enforcement much better than I did in my first email.
Kind regards/Salutacions,
Xaviet Dengra
El dc, 15 febr., 2023 a 18:19, va
مرحبًا، لست معترضًا على النتائج أو السياسة، بل العكس هو أمر جيد من الناحية
التنظيمية ومكافحة التحرش والإساءة لكن لدي بعض الملاحظات حول العملية وليس على
المحتوى:
* نسبة المشاركة تعد ضئيلة جدًا مشاركة 3097 ناخباً من بين 68745 ناخب مؤهل
* عدد الموافقين على الإنفاذ 2,290 ناخب بمعنى بمعنى أقل 4%
I find it a bit disappointing that the count of numbers is being celebrated
here, and these numbers were released without consideration to any concerns
being raised. On projects its the value of the argument not the number of
votes that matter.
FWIW - I recommended against the enforcement
Just noting in passing that the SecurePoll default for "home wiki" is the
project on which an account made its first edit. A large number of editors
who would consider their "home wiki" a different project (or even a
different language entirely) made their first edit on English Wikipedia;
the
Hello Xavier,
Thank you for your email, and sharing your observations and concerns. Many
other movement initiatives face similar challenges. Equitable participation
and engagement are something we are working to improve with each and every
interaction. The UCoC project team has poured a sizable
Hi/Bona vesprada,
Without meaning at all that I do not respect the results of this voting, I
would like to call the attention to the fact that out of 3097 votes,
practically 2000 are circumscribed to only 4 big home wikis: en.wiki (1000),
de.wiki (500), fr.wiki (200) and es.wiki (150).
Imho
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