Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-10-30 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Bence Damokos wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Jan-bart de Vreede > wrote: > >> Hey >> >> So someone sent me the internal-l mail and I do think that the "zero >> real-world" thing is taken out of context here. But a few points >> >> 3) I am sure t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Frédéric Schütz
On 14/09/12 18:08, Jan-bart de Vreede wrote: 4) Doesn't every survey contain questions that don't apply to the whole responding audience? No, because the answer would not be terribly useful. In all surveys I have seen in my work life [statistics work -- I don't design much surveys myself, b

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi, On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Jan-bart de Vreede wrote: > Hey > > So someone sent me the internal-l mail and I do think that the "zero > real-world" thing is taken out of context here. But a few points > > 1) Lets not have these discussions on internal-l, there is no reason to > not have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Jan-bart de Vreede
Hey So someone sent me the internal-l mail and I do think that the "zero real-world" thing is taken out of context here. But a few points 1) Lets not have these discussions on internal-l, there is no reason to not have those in public 2) See 1) 3) I am sure that the data set allows us to see ch

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Florence Devouard
On 9/12/12 4:14 PM, Jan-Bart de Vreede wrote: Hey So I might have missed some mails on this thread (perhaps because they were not posted on this public list) but I highly doubt that Sue perform surveys that do not have a real-world impact on our operations. I know that the results of the pr

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 3:57 AM, charles andrès wrote: > Because we all agree that there is now such thing like a zero real-world > impact survey, we really hope that the raw results of this survey will be > made as public as possible (privacy issue), and that in the future , survey > including

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-14 Thread charles andrès
Dear Jan-Bart, Unfortunately the exact wordings was "I'll point out also that there are zero real-world implications for the survey results". Because we all agree that there is now such thing like a zero real-world impact survey, we really hope that the raw results of this survey will be made as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-12 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hey So I might have missed some mails on this thread (perhaps because they were not posted on this public list) but I highly doubt that Sue perform surveys that do not have a real-world impact on our operations. I know that the results of the previous surveys were used in several discussions (i

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-10 Thread Delphine Ménard
Hello Tilman, On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > Hi Delphine, > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Delphine Ménard wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > ... >>> >>> Still, I was aware that there had been some objections to that >>> question by chap

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-10 Thread Craig Franklin
Great, THANKYOU for finally moving on this. Cheers, Craig Franklin Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 10:24:39 -0700 > From: Tilman Bayer > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and > Office Hour > Message-ID: >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-09-09 Thread Tilman Bayer
Hi Delphine, On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Delphine Ménard wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: ... >> >> Still, I was aware that there had been some objections to that >> question by chapter representatives (which I don't assume have to do >> with the fact that respo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-24 Thread charles andrès
Le 22 août 2012 à 13:11, Cristian Consonni a écrit : > 2012/8/21 Delphine Ménard : >> If, however, we're going to mix editor's experience and satisfaction >> about Wikimedia, I am cruelly missing any kind of feedback question >> about the work of the chapters and/or other organisations or grou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-22 Thread Cristian Consonni
2012/8/21 Delphine Ménard : > If, however, we're going to mix editor's experience and satisfaction > about Wikimedia, I am cruelly missing any kind of feedback question > about the work of the chapters and/or other organisations or groups in > the Wikimedia Universe that would give people the right

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-21 Thread Delphine Ménard
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Tilman Bayer wrote: > I'm not sure she actually said that. In any case, it is wrong - > question D6 in the last survey asked if there was a Wikimedia chapter > in the country where the respondent lived > (https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:December_2

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-21 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Delphine Ménard wrote: > Hi, sorry to fish out a very old message, but since the survey is > about to go live, I would like to share some concerns I have about it. > Unfortunately, I was on holidays as this announcement came out, so > couldn't do it earlier. > > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-08-21 Thread Delphine Ménard
Hi, sorry to fish out a very old message, but since the survey is about to go live, I would like to share some concerns I have about it. Unfortunately, I was on holidays as this announcement came out, so couldn't do it earlier. I find the idea of an editor's survey to be extremely important, since

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-07-31 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Christine Moellenberndt < christine...@gmail.com> wrote: > *Hi everyone, > > It's been a bit since I last emailed this list (or any list, for that > matter!)... you may remember me, I worked at the Foundation last year in > the Community Department, working with P

[Wikimedia-l] Upcoming Survey, Feedback requested, and Office Hour

2012-07-27 Thread Christine Moellenberndt
*Hi everyone, It's been a bit since I last emailed this list (or any list, for that matter!)... you may remember me, I worked at the Foundation last year in the Community Department, working with Philippe on any number of issues, as well as with the OTRS team. I've come back to work on a shor