Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-12 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Ah, thanks for the information. And this encyclopedia of life, isn't that the project suitable? Kind regards Ziko Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association C

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, A "species" database does not contain the same information you are likely to find in an encyclopaedia. When you want to be comprehensive in a database about species, you will include many revisions of genera, of species and more. When you care about such things, have a look at IPNI. Thanks,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-12 Thread J Alexandr Ledbury-Romanov
Alex 2013/6/6 Federico Leva (Nemo) > Ziko van Dijk, 06/06/2013 15:00: > > I also think that it should not be seen as blasphemy when someone suggests >> to reconsider a Wikimedia project. (Remember Asaf's session in Milan.) >> Isn't Wikispecies not already redundant because in Wikipedia every s

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Ziko van Dijk, 06/06/2013 15:00: I also think that it should not be seen as blasphemy when someone suggests to reconsider a Wikimedia project. (Remember Asaf's session in Milan.) Isn't Wikispecies not already redundant because in Wikipedia every species is notable anyway? What Wikipedia are you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-06 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, I also think that it should not be seen as blasphemy when someone suggests to reconsider a Wikimedia project. (Remember Asaf's session in Milan.) Isn't Wikispecies not already redundant because in Wikipedia every species is notable anyway? Kind regards Ziko Am Montag, 3. Juni 2013 schrie

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Taxonomy is not the thing that occupies me. It is however something I have experience with.. Everyone who knows anything about the taxonomy of plants can confirm that a taxon without publishing details is incomplete. Thanks, Gerard On 3 June 2013 17:03, Magnus Manske wrote: > On Mon,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Magnus Manske
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > Really, taxonomy is tricky. FYI I have an 80 MB database with ONLY cacti > and succulents. I learned a lot in the process. > > So, have you imported that to Wikidata yet? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This is great fun ... However from the perspective of taxonomy this is not complete at all. What is lacking are the names of the authors and the date of publication. Even this can be insufficient because there are instances where a description with the same name by the same people happened in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Magnus Manske
Or just get the entire taxonomy for a species quickly: http://208.80.153.172/wdq/?q=tree[4504][171,273,75,76,77,70,71,74,89] Cheers, Magnus On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Nik Everett wrote: > I promise I'll get to looking at wikidata's search sometime! I sure don't > know when that time wil

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Denis Barthel
Disclaimer: I am writing this as a community member of the German Wikipedia, where I have been active for many years in the WikiProject:Biology. As an amateur I had to learn throughout the years, that taxonomy is pretty tricky, much more than it seems at first sight. Though it seems so easy to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Nik Everett
I promise I'll get to looking at wikidata's search sometime! I sure don't know when that time will be but I'll get to it! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2013, at 6:01 AM, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" wrote: > Nikola Smolenski, 03/06/2013 11:44: >> What if this interface would exist? I believe it cou

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Nikola Smolenski, 03/06/2013 11:44: What if this interface would exist? I believe it could be made really quickly and easily. It's not about interface only, for instance the search backend is completely broken and useless for Wikidata, AFAICS. From what I understand, the interface for Wikidata

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Ting Chen wrote: > Hello dear all, > > I happened to worked with a few biology interwikis on WikiData today and saw > the taxnomical data on it. Given that WikiData is growing and more potential > would not it be a good idea to merge WikiSpecies data into WikiData

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Nikola Smolenski
On 03/06/13 11:40, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Ting Chen, 03/06/2013 11:29: I happened to worked with a few biology interwikis on WikiData today and saw the taxnomical data on it. Given that WikiData is growing and more potential would not it be a good idea to merge WikiSpecies data into WikiDat

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Ting Chen, 03/06/2013 11:29: I happened to worked with a few biology interwikis on WikiData today and saw the taxnomical data on it. Given that WikiData is growing and more potential would not it be a good idea to merge WikiSpecies data into WikiData Yes, and close WikiSpecies (hope now there

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/6/3 Ting Chen : > Hello dear all, > > I happened to worked with a few biology interwikis on WikiData today and saw > the taxnomical data on it. Given that WikiData is growing and more potential > would not it be a good idea to merge WikiSpecies data into WikiData and > close WikiSpecies (hope

[Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies

2013-06-03 Thread Ting Chen
Hello dear all, I happened to worked with a few biology interwikis on WikiData today and saw the taxnomical data on it. Given that WikiData is growing and more potential would not it be a good idea to merge WikiSpecies data into WikiData and close WikiSpecies (hope now there will no stones or