Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-11 Thread Manuel Schneider
Am 10.03.2013 20:45, schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo): Chapters have fees because associations have fees; they should follow the laws and customs of their geography and a one-size-fits-all global regulation would be a big mistake. (It might even be illegal in some jurisdictions for some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-11 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Manuel Schneider, 11/03/2013 08:49: Am 10.03.2013 20:45, schrieb Federico Leva (Nemo): Chapters have fees because associations have fees; they should follow the laws and customs of their geography and a one-size-fits-all global regulation would be a big mistake. (It might even be illegal in

[Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread Bence Damokos
Dear all, I wanted to update you on behalf of the Affiliations Committee that we are now considering the application of a proposed thematic organisation to support WikiVoyage, the WikiVoyage Association, the erstwhile stewards of the project. You can see the proposal at:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Bence Damokos, 10/03/2013 19:18: We will be monitoring the talk page at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikivoyage_Association to see if there is any new information that might influence the recognition process. I suppose you also mean

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread rupert THURNER
hi, not sure where to put this on the talk page, but i'd really like, if they want to become affiliated and want to receive movement money, that they drop their 25/12 eur membership fee per year which blocks most people now to become member. rupert. On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Bence

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov
Hmmm, chapters have membership fees and they are affiliated and receive movement money. I don't see why thematic organisations should be treated differently. Dimi 2013/3/10 rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com hi, not sure where to put this on the talk page, but i'd really like, if they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread Bence Damokos
Hi Nemo, The review of the bylaws has not yet started, hence the red links. I expect the review and the conversation around the review to take about 3-4 weeks, perhaps a bit less. Any comments you or others leave on the bylaws' talk page would be taken into account. Best regards, Bence On

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
rupert THURNER, 10/03/2013 20:17: good point, chapters have had traditionally membership fees, because in the startup phase there was no other possibility to finance it. [...] I question this premise. Chapters have fees because associations have fees; they should follow the laws and customs

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 March 2013 18:18, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: You can see the proposal at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage_Association That and its talk page do not seem very current (last updated 12 January and, apart form a single post, 17 December last year, respectively). --

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread Bence Damokos
I think both of you have some good points. I would argue that currently, only a subset of chapters is fully funded from fundraising revenues, and many of the rest rely on membership fees to finance some or all of their administrative costs (while individual, more expensive programmes can be funded

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiVoyage Association as a thematic organization

2013-03-10 Thread Bence Damokos
It would depend on the circumstances (e.g. the relationship between the groups, their history), but in theory thematic organizations are not meant to be fully exclusive in relation to their chosen theme. There could be more thematic organizations focusing on WikiVoyage. This possibility is one